“Reverie” has been viewed 1,500,000 times in 10 days…
The short film “Reverie” has now been seen more than 1,500,000 times in the past ten days and as a result Canon has been forced to look into alternatives to hosting the movie. The movie is now temporarily unavailable but we are working on finding another solution. Thanks for your patience – and more importantly – THANKS for all of the great feedback! – Vincent Laforet
P.S. 133,500,000 Megabytes have been downloaded in the past 10 days – the huge volume is the sole reason behind this temporary removal of the movie from their site.
P.P.S.: Given that the short film containts Moby’s music – YOU CANNOT torrent the “Reverie” movie as per our agreement with him and his record labels – period. So please be patient and let me find an equitable solution that works to make everyone happy.
Canon, oh Canon, did you see the numbers 1.5 million in 10 days. Does that tell you anything. Get the marketing people to go read all the posts. You can hit a home run with some manual controls and 24p and 25p. We can understand your not wanting to cut into your high end video sales, but this is going to happen with or without you.
I don’t think you will take away from your existing video sales, but you will be enabling a whole new group and generation of videographers. Plus, people like myself will sell our 500-1,000 dollar DSLR’s and buy yuor $2,600 body and then spend another 1-2K on your lenses for my 2nd camera. Some will use it as a primary camera but many will use it as a 2nd or 3rd to their pro video gear.
Read the forums. The world is going into an economic slowdown and a whole boatload of people want to buy this camera with manual / 24p/ & 25p You got momentum.
Just do it.
You will make so much money on this camera you will have to hire people to count it.
Vincent, you have my permission to copy this to
Canon.
Rick K. Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I agree with you 100%. In addition to 24p and 25p I’m hoping it will be able to shoot 720p.
Wow!
Congratulation Vincent! That number is something to be proud about.
I sure hope Canon is listening to its users and potential buyers!
Release it as an official bittorrent.
*cough*SmugMug*cough*
I just hope I have mine before November 2009!!! 🙂
Vincent – I’d say you and Canon got a huge amount of bang for your $5000 investment… (that works out to $0.0033 per view in just the ten days)
thanks again for sharing this with us. I’d say Canon probably owes you.
– frank t
How much would Canon normally pay for 1,500,000 hits of advertising? Well worth the investment on their part, I’m sure.
I think Moby will not kill people who will share Reverie, because there are people who is sharing his complete albums.
I hate p2p, it kills artists, but in this case I don’t think Moby will be so angry.
One option could be to put the clips (or final movie) on an Amazon S3 account. At least there, you know exactly how much you’ll be paying ($0.17 per GB of transfer out).
Then you could setup a PayPal donation button to cover the costs. If one out of four people donated $1, that would probably cover it. Any extra money could go to charity.
– Erik (APF)
Regardless of your bold & caps, you in fact CAN torrent the files:
LINK REMOVED
Vincent Laforet Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I’m not saying you can’t – I saying that if you do torrent the files – you take the risk of being pursued legally by my company, Moby, his record labels and Canon for copyright infringement.
Marshall Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
True or not, isn’t posting this here just likely to cause trouble?
Marshall Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Wow, I opened this so long ago that by the time I hit post it was completely pointless. Feel free to kill both my posts…
That’s awesome Vince. Just an FYI, I wanted to pay for the song, I pay for all my music and software, (and yes, sometimes I eat pasta for a week when I do such things). But perhaps Art is one of the last pure things we have left in the world. (with the Pork the Senate added to the bill last night, Hollywood got some amazing Tax Breaks, what about photographers, Indi Film Makers, Music artists,) Yes, I pay for my art.
Thank you again.
Tom
Please remove the comment by “Ben”
What’s up with the fact that roughly 40% of the damn movie is opening or closing credits? Just think of the bandwidth wasted on like four screens worth of text.
Otherwise, a fine looking piece of camerawork.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Nitpicker – if you’re not selling a movie to an audience – the least you can do is to thank everyone who participated in it – and get some credit yourself… would you rather see a 30 second ad?
Nitpicker Reply:
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
No, but you could have thanked them all in a still frame at the end of the film, using approximately 1/300th the bandwidth.
Nitpicker Reply:
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Furthermore, why pretend that the whole thing isn’t a 3 minute ad? It’s an ad for Canon and an ad for Vincent Laforet Visuals, and a very effective ad at that. I’m buying the camera! It’s a very accomplished piece of cinematography from a respected photographer, but not a piece of art or philanthropy.
Nitpicker, everyone needs a little love. It’s called marketing, and it would be stupid not to put credits on a project this awesome. Simply putting a watermark on the project would also do the RAW footage injustice, so credits were the best way to go.
Vince’s work was inspiring and it deserved every kilobyte. Great work Vince!
Hey Vince, here’s a good idea. Have an ad link prompting people to buy the 5D on the same page as the embeded “Reverie” video. That ad link will then take you to a page of Canon Vendor’s taking pre-orders for the 5D Mark II. All those retailers will get plenty of sales conversions, justifying the fee Canon could charge retailers to have a link to their website’s pre-order page. It’s genius, it pays for the bandwith and increases the sales of their product. I do alot of web marketing, where there’s traffic, there is money.
It’s an excellent piece of work.
Have you at least nudged the ribs of the Canon Exec’s who “weren’t sure” if you could have one of these for a little while?
Where’s the work from the people who were on Canon’s list and who you had to send the camera to ?
Wonderful work – love it – Hope all is well
It’s on TPB already.
Why not just use some free music, or do something in Garageband.. or let someone that wanna contribute put their own music for free in the movie… then you can torrent it all you want 🙂
Mixing comercial music with a non comercial video probably wasn’t the best marriage.
Thanks for all great work shared here 🙂
Why not post the video on a service like Vimeo? Granted it won’t be downloadable in it’s native format, but at least people will be able to see it. Also, the HD on Vimeo looks pretty sweet. Check the Canon HV20/30 group.
Luke Miller Reply:
October 4th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Agreed! Vimeo is a great alternative!
Hi Vincent
Any news from canon on the 24/25fps issues?
I am confused about this whole fuss about bandwidth. Do I understand it right that the issue is that you cannot download the movie to your local harddrive and therefore BitTorrent protocol is not useful? I ask because that was what I did when it was released — and I thought it was what I was supposed to do. When the movie first appeared on Canon web, I fired my Firefox in Linux and quickly found out, that some plug-in not available in Linux (supposedly QuickTime) is required. So I opened the page’s source and quickly found the URL of the actual MP4 file and then downloaded it with wget. Have I done something wrong? Should I delete the file?
Dustin Finn Reply:
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:13 am
In previous posts by Mr. Leforet the only way he was allowed to use the music from Mr. Moby for his independent movie is because it was “understood” that the music would not be allowed to be downloaded to someone’s hard drive (read music in the movie, now on the hard drive). It’s something that Moby has outlined in their allowance for indie movie people to use the music without paying to use it.
The bandwidth thing is very odd, we are talking about a large corporation, you would expect Canon to eat the cost considering the following the movie is gaining…
So – I assume – yes – you weren’t supposed to download the movie. you decide if you need to delete it or not…
Tyler Stoffel Reply:
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:56 am
If the music and film were never meant to be downloaded, then it should have been released in a form that all operating systems can view without needing to download it.
I’m just saying . . .
Well done! and congratulations!
Just remove the music and release it on torrent without music…
I will buy a Canon 5D MKII right away… IF… they add 24p.
Vince- For some posts, you might want to just turn comments off! I’m sure you don’t need bittorrent whining…
It’s October 3, Nachtwey’s TED project is revealed:
http://www.xdrtb.org/
Any (informal) news from Canon about the 24/25p issue and/or manual control?
Do you plan to get in touch with them again, or hear from them by a certain point in time?
Or are we just hoping for some announcement in the uncertain future?
Best
M
Control over aperture is WAY more important than 24p… 30p looks terrific and I have no problems with it as a prosumer. If I were a filmmaker getting paid, I wouldn’t be using the 5DII anyway.
Does anyone know what was mounted to the bottom of the camera for the handhold shots?
Edward Reply:
October 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Its a Kenyon Gyro i believe.
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