7 Days, 7 Shoots – EOS 5D MKII
CLICK on the embedded link above – OR CLICK HERE – to see the video in a higher AppleTV Resolution (still lower than the full resolution footage… no one wants to host footage that large – too much bandwidth…) Special thanks to SmugMug for hosting this clip!
I’ve had a chance to get a hold of the 5D MKII on several occasions – seven to be specific (2 of those nights were spent shooting the first film, Reverie.) I’ve felt compelled to try to create something with it each time I’ve had the camera in my hands. And I will admit this camera has brought me back the closest to the feeling I had at the age of 15 when I had my first camera and a few rolls of Tri-X to burn through. Simply put – it’s so much fun and pure.
You’ll see some footage shot with Tilt-shift lenses from the air – my first time with video – as well as one of the last shots of the series that was shot with a full motion picture Steadicam rig. All of the footage was shot with several different prototypes of the Canon EOS 5D MKII that I was allowed to borrow at different intervals – cut in Final Cut Studio, and graded in Color. I’m still in the middle of post-productions with almost every one of these shoots – busier shooting than editing to be honest. But I thought I’d share some of this footage as most of your are likely to receive your production 5DMKIIs sometime this week (those that put their names down first of course.)
Each one of the projects was a collaboration with quite a few talented people – included the group from Acroback, and Rodney Decker, a student of mine from the Eddie Adams Workshop (boxer series.) Special thanks to Roland Wood, Steve, and Daniel DeLaRossa, Billy Grafton, John, and Terry Watson. And special thanks to the awesome pilots Aaron Fitzgerald, Michael, and Adam Cerny. Haven’t had a chance to do credits – but I need to credit the following music: “Roads” by Portishead, from the album “Dummy”& “Chemtrails” by Beck from the album “Modern Guilt.” The initial edit was done by Andre Costantini, and I then ruined his edit by adding recent work from the past 2 shoots. Thanks also to Alex Bickel who graded “Reverie” – you can see a few of those clips in the above sequence – I will put the graded (color corrected) version of the short up soon.
I’m going to try to find the time to write down some thoughts as well as some tips and tricks about this camera – so that you can all hit the ground running. First tip: if you’re editing in Final Cut Studio – you can do it ok in the native H.264 – but it’s worth converting the footage to Apple’s ProRes (HQ) format for much smoother results (as a first step – i.e. BEFORE you start editing – but you can of course do it at any time)
Awesome work Vincent inspiring
Great stuff and very visually stimulating.
Makes me laugh though how many still photographers long to do moving images, and I longed to do stills, as I didn’t have the burden of the crews etc. to tell a story! Maybe the 5ive D (and others) are gonna be the devils advocate! Love your blog mate, great source of inspiration.
Hot diggedy damn! I can’t wait to get mine and give shooting my own short a go. Your work is inspiring mate. I’m looking forward to your tips and tricks, I’m sure a whole bunch of us want to hit the ground running as you say.. I know I do! 🙂
hey V..great work..as always..I love the aerial work you do.
Vincent, great mood, love the colors, the cityscape just pops. One of the sharpest shots imo is the older man crying — that and it is a moving shot.
I trust you: what do you say to the people discussing that even though you can lock exposure, it is not true aperture priority? One has to trick the camera for shallow dof in daylight? Thanks.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Yes – unfortunately you DO have to trick the camera… it is not Aperture priority. I was led to believe (innocently – as there was very little information available at the time) that you would be able to do this – perhaps with the production camera – but it looks like there will be no true Aperture priority mode on the production camera at this point. It’s disappointing to say the least. Not real sure why Canon is not allowing true Aperture priority mode – all of the buttons/settings/menu items are in place. Forget 24p – Aperture priority (where you can set your aperture, and ISO) are much more important in my opinion.
michael Woodall Reply:
January 10th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
@Vincent Laforet,
Absolutely! Hey your one of a few standing right there whispering in canons ear. i hope they listen!
thanks for the inspiration! and where the hell do you get the time to do all this?
thanks man, and don’t forget to eat your vitamins!
daniel Reply:
February 18th, 2009 at 11:45 am
@Vincent Laforet, How do you trick the camera to shallow dof then? greyfilters? Thanks?
C’est magnifique tout ca…je n’en peux plus d’attendre mon exemplaire…peut etre avant noel avec de la chance…
des nouvelles d’un firmware avec du 25p pour l’europe?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Unfortunately – no news whatsoever. Still waiting for news as you all are.
incredible …
Superb images and very inspirational. Can’t wait like many others to give it a try.
Was the powerful colour of the old man shot produced in Final Cut studio?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Yes – it was produced with Final Cut Suite’s “Color” Software – a truly powerful app.
Amazing selection! Keep posting, so good to seed these!
Very impressive once again, I’m not alone when I say: more more more! I must also agree with you music makes a massive impact. My favourite shot from that sequence is the heli pan of one building, unveiling the sole figure on top of the black building helipad. Breathtaking.
Excellent more footage, still top quality, but got a question as I read more and more stuff related to all this. Is because of your short exposure to the cameras or is difficult to obtain longer sequences with focus on different subjects and action?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
One can definitely get longer sequences – I just haven’t had much time with the camera to be honest. When I do – I try to work quickly and make the most of the time…
Hi Vincent,
Love the footage so far! I work in a post production company and we’re pretty excited about the likes of the d90, 5d and scarlet as means of getting high res shallow focus footage but the first one we’ve tested, the d90, puts far too much compression on the output files for it to be usable – unfortunately there’s no way to take a feed from the live view and record outside the camera either. Would it be possible for you to put up a very short clip (5 – 10 seconds) of anything to see what the footage quality is like raw from the camera? The d90 was lovely but would start to fall apart with colour correction applied and since the resolution is only 720p we wouldn’t be able to downsize to tv res to remove the artifacting. The 5d is nearly twice the vertical height of standard pal tv so it’d be a far better bet!
Thanks again for such extensive coverage of a very exciting camera!
John
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
John- once I get a production camera – I can put a full length clip up. I cannot do so with the pre-production cameras that I’ve been using. That’s part of the deal unfortunately.
You’ll probably find some of the files work for what you need – and some won’t. The compression cannot be controlled – and you cannot “steal” the signal from the HDMI output… this is indeed a first generation camera – not quite perfect for everyone’s needs – but it opens up a lot of doors. I can tell you the quality is definitely superior to the D90 – but not as good as the RAW footage coming out of the RED – as this footage is compressed H.264.
Great Vincent, but I must admit that I am a bit frustrated to see that you have some urban exploration style shots. I was planning to be the first one to shot these! Other than my jealousy, it is great and I love the grading!
Wow, WOW! That was friggin great Vincent! I tried the pre-production model myself last week and it is a great camera. We used the 80mm f/1.2 and the result was stunning. I didn’t get shots like this though.. 😉
HI
Really nice ! I am waiting eagerly for my camera and we will do a research project about whether it will change the industry or not. Iam especially curious if the sound recording will be usable for proffesionals.
We will post HD clips as soon as we can on http://canonhd.wordpress.com/
looks good! i love the shots of the city from the helicopter
Holy **** Vincent thats incredible footage! I’m totally stunned!
Can’t wait to see the final results!
Amazing stuff Vincent! Thanks again – added to the 5d wiki at http://planet5d.com
Hi Vincent! I hope to see your work in decayed Ohio soon!
Dear Vincent,
Thanks for including a short “Parcours Runners” scene …. I can’t wait to see the full length film. Actually, how much time per year you spend on board Helicopters ??
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Not that much to be honest. Maybe one hour every two weeks on average. Sometime I get jobs where I’ll do 30 hours in a little over a week – but those are pretty rare in this economy…
Beautiful stuff there. I wish I could get my hands on that camera for the movie functionality alone. It’s definitely an incredible still image camera, but it seems like the movie mode (at least in my mind) eclipses the advances it’s made in capturing still images over the Mark I model.
Vincent, you are simply the most talented artist (well, you know whom our mutual friend is so your up there with him) I’ve ever had the pleasure of meeting and call our friend.
Tom and Jared
Stunning. Absolutely stunning.
You’re really setting some high expectations for this camera’s video capabilities.
How, Vincent, you certainly know what ya doing with that camera. Your vids are brilliant and whats most important the show emotions, a hell lot of emotions. Thanks for sharing!
So cool man! Can’t wait to see more and hear more about the projects!
Vincent,
Long time reader, first time posting. I just want to say thank you for taking the time to try new things with video/photography and share them on your blog. This is what it’s all about. Obviously we have to pay the bills, but doing projects to push our creativity with new ideas and concepts makes our “work” much more enjoyable.
I’m come from a video production background, but do photography work too. It seems that the 5DmarkII could let me explore both worlds with top quality images. Thanks again for sharing your art.
Hey Vincent,
I have to say, I really enjoyed these clips. The quality is just blow-my-eyes-out good and and the composition seems spot on.
I really liked the tilt shift shot of the freeway.
I can’t wait to see more of that since it’s my favorite photography of yours, too.
Great stuff and thanks for the tip on converting to ProRes before the edit. Do you do that via Media manager after transferring the footage?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Log and Transfer would be the best way to go – and I know someone is working on that… more to come on that later. For now I do just what you suggest – Media Manager – Recompress as ProRes… v
The images look great!
Can you share with us any tips/tricks you’ve found for “forcing” a large aperture manually? It would be great to shoot with a shallow depth-of-field without the camera first selecting high ISO and a slow shutter speed if those weren’t necessary (like in daylight).
Any insight you have to work the issue would really be appreciated!
And, again, beautiful images. Hope we’ll all get to see the finished outcome of your multiple projects!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
It can be a bit maddening to be honest. But it CAN be done… I wish it were a tad bit easier than it is. Remember that I shot Reverie at night – so it was never an issue. I was always wide open. During the day time – it helps to point the camera at a very dark object/shadow… the aperture will open up… then point it at your subject and lock the exposure down immediately – before it reverts to f11-f22. Sometimes it works perfectly – at other times – it’s doing a bit of weird science. Remember – I’ve been working with pre-production cameras – and I haven’t had a chance to get the final product in my hands – so it’s dangerous for me to say anything for certain.
Vince-
As you spend more time with the 5D Mk. II, I hope to hear your thoughts on a more “budget” oriented approach to video. While I plan to play with the video mode, I’m primarily a stills shooter and can’t justify a RedRock Micro rig or Final Cut Studio — for the moment at least. I’d be curious how you feel about Plume’s Handi-Pod or Bruce Dorn’s UBC rig to aid in handling for video shooting; likewise, what does Final Cut Express have to offer?
Best,
-Charles
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
I haven’t had a chance to work with any of those products… I’m sure they’ll help and that someone will review them at some point. I should remind you that I didn’t use the RedRock Micro rig for “Reverie.” It’s a great platform – but not everyone “needs” it.
Pretty darn excellent. It shows what pros can do.
Really Awesome
I was thinking of delaying my purchase of this until next year for taxes but you’re videos keep messing that plan up! I’m on a waiting list at a business here in Salt Lake so hopefully they’ll be calling me within the next few weeks. When exactly is it being released?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
People are getting them today in person at stores – and many are getting them shipped to them today – and they will get them after Thanksgiving – on Friday.
Excellent footage, by all means.
Just ONE question, Vincent:
UNDER SUPERB, WELL THOUGHTOUT LIGHTING CONDITIONS…
-Would you put down a Canon XH A1 HDVC to capture video on a 5D?
Thanks,
Juan
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Depends. I’d probably go with the 5D. But the XH A1 offers you: digital zoom, two viewfinders you can rotate…sound input levels, mic etc… for what I do: mainly trying to create beautiful video that aims to look close to film – I’d go with the 5D. For some – there will be too many inherent limitations with the 5D.
Juan Reply:
November 27th, 2008 at 1:14 am
I see, I see…Well, just from viewing “Reverie” I can tell that you are not only able to master photojournalism but “controlled” environments as well. The short is, among other (good) things, nothing but beautiful photography, in motion, for which the 5D seems to be the perfect fit so far. Good job, Vincent.
wow!
inspiring
Hey Vincent,
It was awesome to spend a few hours with you in the Arcade and watch you film. It was great to see your presentation later that evening and I’m certain it inspired everyone there.
You convinced me to go video and I may see a new 5DmkII in my collection in the near future.
Wow! You are transitioning quite well to moving pictures 🙂
very nice.
Great stuff, Vincent. I love that shot of the firefighter.
Vince, you rock.
I’m…. speechless.
Great video!
Question for all the American readers/canon users. Has Canon USA raised their prices on the 5D Mark II? Canon Canada canceled all the pre-order PO’s from their distributors and made them re-order them at the higher prices, even though they accepted them prior to the price increase. The distributors (retail stores) have in turn increased their prices, even to those orders that they have received a deposit on.
Just wondering if Canon USA is conducting unethical business practices like their Canadian counter part.
Again great video and I look forward to getting my 5D Mark II (at my original price)!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
To my knowledge- the price has not changed in the US.
Best shot is your T&F Shot, aerial shot and steadicam Parcour guy in this order.
Well, quite mixed with different styles but very nice clips thought. Keep on.
Unfortunately 5D MII appears to come out later and later in europe so I can’t buy it before I go on a long trip 🙁
Inspiring and breathtaking as usual Vincent. I just adore your technique with the Tilt-Shift lens.
The stills get that surreal model landscape look with it.
Any news upon 24p yet?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Nope – not a peep. I don’t think it will happen to be honest with the production cameras. Perhaps with a later firmware update… not right now though.
Can’t stop watching that stuff!
Would you be so kind and tell us what the shot of that elder guy who looks quite exhausted is about? It’s so incredibly emotional!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
That’s video of Sandy Colton – father to Jimmy and Jay Colton (both top photo editors in the business) – after the Memorial at the Eddie Adams Workshop to honor war photographers and Eddie.
Vincent, marcando tendencias. Felicidades.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Thanks for all of the great feedback everyone. I didn’t really expect it to be honest – there are quite a few videos out there already (including a few parodies of “Reverie” that I quite like…) shot with the 5D MKII. Thanks for the kind words – sincerely – v
The legs hanging down as the helicopter touched down should have been moving … to symbolize those of us who wish to hit the ground running with the awesome 5D Mark II.
I had planned to do a Reverie parody myself.
Great minds….
Vince-
Dam…so much great footage and knowledge on your blog! How’s the audio with this camera? Did you hook an external mic and mount it on the hot shoe? If so what did you get? That’s one of my biggest questions right now about it. D90 doesn’t have a mic input, but the 5D does!
Many Thanks,
Marc
The best part of that video was the skateboard flip over those people. Cool!
You added a little bit of Reverie back in, but the rest leaves me puzzled.
Maybe it’s supposed to. Why was the old man with the red suspenders crying? What’s up with the dilapidated slum area building? Is that where the boxer lives, or trains?
If you shoot another one, would you consider making a sequel to Reverie? So we can find out what happened to that couple. After the guy woke up, late for his blind date, did he make it on time? Do they hit it off?
Much of this new vid had a much softer(focus)look it seems. I guess that was the stylistic intent you were going for. I hope, because otherwise, I’d probably reconsider any planned purchase of the 5D2, at least for video use.
Very inspiring movie shot by a very interesting camera. Thank you.
Maybe a dumb question, but would ND filters “trick” the 5DM2 for wider apertures? Love the vids!
waiting for your ‘5dMkII tips and tricks’ blog post 😀
Some serious noise issue on the illuminated wall @00:40. Is it the compression or from the camera?
What were the size of your flash cards (CF)to shoot those clips? 4GB? 8GB? How much memory say a 2 minute clip would take up on one the CF cards?
This camera will revolutionize the independent movie industry. 30fps is great because most of the straight to DVD projects shot in 24P on DVcameras(DVX,HVX etc)are edited in 30fps because the projects are going straight to DVD anyway.
Vincent, you are the reason why I just placed preorder of 5D Mark II. Now I have to find out how to tell my wife I spent so much money for camera and lens 😉
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Hi, Vincent!
thank you very much! (c) russianspeaking photoamateurs
brilliant work vince. Doors are really opening with the new tech. you continute to set the standard of photography, and continute to push us to push the envelope. thank you.
I was in Toronto today checking up on my pre-order asking the guys at Henrys about whether the 5d would stack up to a 3ccd minidv cam, and the guy just laughed and said no way, because…the 5d compresses everything so much when writing to a card vs uncompressed to tape. I thought, “ok video guy on commission” went to the camera counter and exactly the same response there. I know Vincents video’s look amazing but would this camera really compare to a mini dv – even an entry level one? Confused in the cold.
Eli Reply:
November 28th, 2008 at 2:03 am
Would the average movie goer tell the difference between what’s shot on 5DmarkII, DVX,HVX or Panavision? If you did not know the short video ‘REVERIE was shot on the 5DmarkII,what would have been your guess of what camera REVEIRIE was shot on? HVX?F900? Again could the average person actually tell difference? I don’t think so. That’s why Maidson Avenue is taking advantage of this technology.
wayne eardley Reply:
November 28th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Thanks Eli, I guess my concern would be when this thing gets blown up. (I work mainly as a still shooter so forgive me if my questions are naive) I was so shocked at the response from the guys at the store, made me wonder if I could do commercial work with this thing, they suggested a 800.00 mini DV camera instead. Maybe I didn’t shave yesterday…
Evan Donn Reply:
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 am
no MiniDV tape is uncompressed. SD is compressed less than HDV on tape, but the compression used by HDV is more efficient (interframe rather than intraframe-only) and the greater resolution more than makes up for any new compression artifacts when compared to SD DV.
Now HDV uses MPEG2 for compression at 25 megabits/second. The 5DmkII uses MPEG4 at ~40 megabits/second… so it’s a newer, and far more efficient codec, running with 60% more data per second than tape. So, while there are aspects of the 5D that might not make it well suited to particular video jobs compared to a miniDV camera I wouldn’t say compression is one of them. If that’s the primary argument of the guys behind the counter at your shop I’d say you need to find a different place to get advice on cameras.
Hello Vincent,
Great video again !
I hope, I will have the chance me too to continue my project “Tokyo Reality” with the 5D Mark II… I have really enjoy this camera !
http://www.dailymotion.com/lejapon/video/x7b3rx_tokyo-reality-canon-eos-5d-mark-ii_travel
See you 😉
David
Another cool video. I think most of the coolness is your artistic eye and abilities and not really the camera. As the first HD DSLR product, the 5DmkII is already making waves. I am sure in a year or 2 there will be some really good full function still/video hybrids
Bonjour Vincent,
A new great video !
I hope I will have the chance to use again the 5D Mark II for finish my short movie “Tokyo Reality”.
This DSLR is incredible, and it was hard to not kipe it 😉
A bientot !
I Absolutely LOVE this footage!!! It’s everything I’ve ever dreamed of! I look forward to some more short films from you Vincent! 🙂
Maybe you’ll turn into a bit of a Steve McQueen?
http://www.edstonephotography.com
Just discovered your photography while researching the D5 MarkII.. YOU are truly amazing..!!
Just one question is this really you on Flickr..?
Wow, Vincent! That is beautiful. The Los Angeles aerial stuff from our flight looks spectacular. Especially considering how awful the light was that day. I wish people could have seen the conditions that day to truly appreciate what you were able to create from it.
Like you said, ‘Never cancel a photo flight’! 🙂
It was a pleasure to work with you, as always, and I am honored to be one of your helicopter pilots.
Looking forward to seeing what you do next.
-Aaron
The video looks great!!!
Question. Have you ever shot from a plane instead of a helicopter? From what I have been able to research a small plane would be much cheaper than a helicopter. I’m not totally sure though since most flying services keep there prices conveniently hidden.
Does anybody ever seen this video made on the SANYO HD1000 last year?
http://www.vimeo.com/2373374
Eli Reply:
November 29th, 2008 at 8:38 am
Great footage. But what sets the Canon 5DMII apart from any other consumer or now prosumer camera is the ability to accept ALL of the lenses that Canon has ever made for it’s EOS models.In that way a person would have control of the perspective of a shot. Either a fisheye or long prime lens. It’s all about control on what you want the viewer to see.
Bon ben c’est confirmé, les appareils vendus en europe font bien de la video en 30fps….pas d’option pour passer ca en 25fps.
donc impossible de filmer en lumiere artificielle…comment les mecs de canon peuvent laisser passer des trucs pareils !!!!!surtout sur un appareil professionnel
The second last comment about the Sanyo just goes to show that so many people just don’t “get” what the new 5D is all about. It’s a great STILL camera that also does MOTION. Yeah, it’s the first generation, so it’s not going to be perfect, and it won’t do everything right for everyone, but you have to remember, it’s not a video camera, it’s a stills camera, that has the ability to capture motion. That’s all. However it’s going to be a powerful tool in the RIGHT hands – not everyone will be able to pick it up and make great movies – just like giving this as a stills camera to anyone does not guarantee a great photograph.
I personally don’t understand why people are getting so ramped and over excited about this camera in a negative way. There are thousands of posts on the blogs of people complaining “oh this doesn’t do 24p, this doesn’t allow full manual etc etc”…Shut Up! Let’s see what happens when it’s out, let’s see in the next year or two what Canon comes up with right? That Sanyo Jako is a toy compared to the abilities of the 5Dmk2, however in the right hands it can make some great movies…but it’s a portable video camera, that’s it’s job.
Eli Reply:
November 29th, 2008 at 9:15 am
You right some people don’t understand the abilities of the 5DMII.Man the 24p argument is so funny too me. Some don’t realize is what give a movie a “film look” is the “FILM IT SELF”,not because it moves 24fps.The old school engineers way back in the 1930’s figured the best way to sync up sound that was recorded at 60cycles was to adjust the motion picture camera motors to 24fps. I think the Japanese engineers at Canon are hurting themselves laughing at this argument. They will probabably say Ok on the next model we just say it’s 24p rather than 30fps but we are not going to change anything.lol. How are we going to know,what take the camera apart to find out? lol
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 29th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Andreas – you are now my new HERO! You GET it! Absolutely on point. Yes – full control is KEY. YES – 24p 1/48th is needed. BUT – this is a first generation camera.
It is what it is.
Period.
It’s far from perfect. BUT – in the right hands – it CAN do wonders. Will it be used for major motion picture projects? Unlikely. Can it do wonders in the rights hands – likely.
Everyone – please keep the comments coming. But understand that they will most likely contribute to the development of the NEXT camera. Perhaps Canon will do a firmware update. I’m guessing they’re thinking they can wait – and do all of the changes in their “next” camera. I think that’s short-sighted in this world, given how fast things are moving, someone is bound to step in first and give us “that” camera – that we’ve all been waiting for… They SHOULD make a firmware update available ASAP. BUT – it’s unlikely. Just not the way they do business – and they’ve been around for a long time. Doesn’t mean they do things perfectly – but they do tend to know what they’re doing.
Will Stewart Reply:
December 1st, 2008 at 12:17 am
Great work Vincent, as always. About the 24p thing, I have to disagree a bit. The “what makes film look like film,” argument is old and tired. But for indy film makers 24p is a technical hurdle they have to clear. 30p does not transfer well to PAL for foreign market distribution. Many distributors won’t take something mastered at 30p and the conversions to 24p or 25p have terrible motion issues. 24p can convert to 25p easily enough and to 60i with pulldown. Even 60i is preferable to 30p from a conversion standpoint. You have to deliver on a format that distributors want in order to stay in business. So although many people demand 24p reflexively with no real understanding or need in mind, it is actually much more universal for distribution purposes right now and the lack of it in this camera is something of a deal killer for many low budget film makers. Granted, that’s not it’s intended purpose, but if it were 24p I’d use it to make a low budget feature right now. Maybe next gen. Keep up the great work.
chuck thomas Reply:
February 16th, 2009 at 6:45 am
@Vincent Laforet,
I think this camera is perfect for a Motion Picture we are planning to shoot.
Vincent, would you be our DP for this project?
Ever heard of VUZE? Yea there you can share your HD videos. Or you can distribute your GB via torrents.
Vincent,
Hey man, I dig the work you doing with this camera. It’s beautiful. I’ve got a deposit down and I’m 8th on the list at a local shop so hopefully I’ll have mine sometime soon…we’ll see. My question is about doing multiple takes and exposure control. You mentioned that you have no control over the exposure of the shot. And you have to essentially ‘trick’ the camera to get the exposure you want. But can those readings be recreated? And is there a possibility of doing multiple takes with this system that have the same look. Sorry to add to the plethora of questions you have received. But thank you for taking the time to inform. Jeff.
Great work, Vincent. Simply beautiful.
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Best regards,
Ron Lindeboom
Creative COW Magazine
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Beautiful work !!
New possibilities and pespectives are incredible for photographers.
But Canon is very expert to make his clients confused … i wanted to buy an 1D markIII for sport shoots, but now, it’s impossible for me to choose between the 5d …
Sorry for my english language..
Best regards
lo
Hi Vincent, everyone else has already said everything there is to say about your skills so I won’t add to your ego!
My question is on the audio recorded by the 5D in movie mode – none of the clips you have shared with us has natural sound so and in a news context (which is where I am coming from) the sound is as imporatant as the pictures. Any commment on that?
Many thanks for sharing your hard work.
Vincent, I love it! So what do you have to do to get a good shallow DOF in daylight? Is there a portrait setting? Is it enough to just use a good 50mm f1.8 or 85mm f2?
I have just heard that mine is on its way to the shop for pick up. Cant wait to get my hands on it. Whilst I was waiting I purchased a D90 as I have the D200 with loads of lenses but was very dissapointed still didn’t cost that much so will use as a backup camera. Counting tha days. Your Video inspired me to place my order early great work. Steve
I shoot the X1 and the X3. This camera will change everything. Letus. Get worried. Red. Get cheaper. I’ve tested a D90 but when I saw this, I went out into the car park and hung my head in shame: then I decided to get a gig to justify the purchase. Yes. It has its limitations. But for a first gen, it puts the tools of lenses in the hands of people who can’t afford Panavision. You’re right Vincent. It has changed everything and you gave it a bloody good push start. Your work is a mix of the fine art I’d expect from a stills photographers. Us ‘Motion’ guys better get moving because when you guys figure it out, it will be a different world.
Well I got the call from the nice guy at Ritz Camera yesterday and picked up my wonderfull new camera. OMG what a piece of kit, being used to Nikon I spent most of the night getting used to the handling of the camera, its so differnet to my D200/D90 the latter going straight on ebay as it was put to shame in about 2 minutes of me testing the video. I cannot wait to get out today and get some test shots and video. This thing is awsome. I too had a Sont V1E Video camera with 35mm adapter SGPro and many FD lenses and sold the lot for 4,000 Euros which has now enabled me to get the Mark ii with many extras like the 580EXII Flash and much more, with the small footprint and super low light capabilities its made my previous and bulky rig redundent in a flash, Yes I know its not a dedicated video camera but first impressions have blown away the look my Sony/SGPro rig offered with portabilty.
Hey Vincent, great stuff!
Got my 5DMKII but I got heavy “skew” issue’s… did you or can you post a work-method with all the steps? Read you convert the movies first to ProRes for example.. I just think the skew CAN be prevented but I just want to know how.
Also I shoot with a good old pentax lens (p-wire) with a converter ring. No autofocus/IS but… aperture and focus can both be done manually on the lens itself… it’s very handy!
Cheers!
Your videos shot with the Mark ii will probably sell thousands of these cameras for Canon. They should be thrilled. I have watched Reverie many times and it is a gorgeous creation that reveals more each time I see it. Thank you for inspiring me and thousands of other aspiring photographers.
Canon needs to make the fact the camera cannot be controlled manually in video mode obvious in it’s product specs. I can deal with the fact that the camera is a prosumer model and the video capabilities are hobbled due to it’s low price but to find out there’s no manual control only when I actually have the thing in my hands is a bummer. I spent a good 30 min’s reading the manual and thinking I was doing something wrong before I thought to check here on the blog.
Granted, I may have missed the memo along the way but I’ve spoken to 4 other photogs just today that had no clue there was no manual capability with video on the 5D MK II.
Bob Croslin
Vincent, would you care to comment on how easy “”Reverie”” would have been to make, if shot on more conventional Video equipment either with 35mm adapters or with a 2k/4k camera, along with lighting costs planning etc. I am very curious what the effective difference would be in order to have obtained a similar result. Regards Steve.
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Does after effects can help to make footage 24fps?
I just bought one and I love it – except that I can’t control exposure settings will shooting video! I called Canon and they confirmed the same. That seems so basic for this market – am I crazy?
Im curious why you recommend converting to Apple’s ProRes (HQ) format instead of h.264. Any shortcomings with this codec as opposed to others?
Also, I’m interested to know if you think recording sound with the camera is a drag/low quality.
Have you noticed any problems with the rolling shutter?
If you were looking to shoot documentary video, would you rather an HVX for other video camera functions?
cheers
sam Reply:
January 20th, 2009 at 9:30 am
@jeff,
Hi Jeff,
prores 422 works at a far higher bit rates (there is two settings I belive) than h.264, therefore needs less processor power to work with, but requires more access to hard drives as the files (and data rates) are much bigger.
Also apple (prores) say that generation to generation very little quality is lost which would be a concern of mine if I was editing in something as compressed as H.264.
Hi;
All very amazing and excitting images.
Well done to you and canon for pushing the bench-mark.
I have been folowing your “tests” with the new camera from the begining and as an X photographer and now cinematographer (profesionally speaking) I have been wanting one of these 5D mk2’s.
I shoot 35mm; 16mm HD RED etc so this is an interesting new toy.
I am a little scared now on the fps issue but mainly no manual control…!!!!
This is crazy I know this is a stills camera that just happens to be shooting video but???
You seem to have a bit of influence with the CANON guys… is it a firmware thing or what?; If it is then cool but otherwise it seems like a big mistake.
Thanks again
michael cleary
http://www.michaelcleary.co.za
Hi Vincent.
I’m a news media photographer who has been using Canons for years for stills, I now have a 5DMKII and am trying to get my head around the video for my news outlets.
What video editing software do you recomend, bearing in mind my I need to compile, compress and ftp the vision (3-5 min worth) from my laptop at the news scene. I need software that will render the scenes without jitter, particularly when panning.
Can you help please?
I use final cut express, everything works great except; this camera has serious oversights ie no manual exposure control and complete wobblies when panning. I bought one, looks great …very limited use.
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I very love to shoot video but since the canon 5D mark II released I don’t know what model I have to buy. So in your opinion which camera is the best for video quality now? Canon 5D Mark II or Panasonic HVX200
Hi!!! vincent. I know that you work with Canon and I have a Questions About they products.
I’m waiting for the new Canon EOS 1D MKIV do know some info about that new camera, because i don’t want purchase the MKIII and see a new one in two or three months.
Thanks a lot…
I’m in love with your work….
Excellent job. The camera shooting angle is very nice.
Hi!
Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, and your experiments with us. A few questions about this camera:
– If we transfer the footage directly from the hdmi output, is it really still compressed H 264? Is it really unpossible to get out of this camera uncompressed footage?
– By any chance, did you try or do you know anyone around you who would have tried a shoot to 35mm film through a high-resolution printer system?
Thanks a lot!
Impressive work
mp3musicasite
How did you get the footage from the Canon EOS 5D mkII into Final cut pro? (Ingest or capture) Interface?
thanks for the information i will apply that.
mp3melhor
Congratulations, its magnific. But tell me something. Ive tried a 5D MKII and Ive noted that when we use the video rec the camera begins into an automatic mode. I couldnt control the aperture, iso or the shutter. If we shot at night, the camera comes with compensation and we can get somethings like large apertures, but at the day light Ive only got something like f11 or f16. And I couldnt change it. That is so bad. Am I wrong?
Thanks
Hey,
Thought you might be interested in this. We wrapped last week and it goes to broadcast next month.
We did have a few with the camera in testing but we found that they all had work-arounds. It’s a great piece of kit if you’re happy to jump through a few hoops.
http://vimeo.com/3999097
Cheers,
Andy
Hi, just wanna tell you, i’ve made this Music video with 3 EOS 5DMKII. (don’t look for any HD format, we’ll keep it for later…)
Best,
Denis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr2A5HrYt9s&feature=channel_page
Hi Mr. Vincent, your work is amazing.
I know your work after 5D mk II, but all of your work is realy powerful!
This post is some of most complete “discuss forum” about the Movie 5D mark II! 🙂
Do you use stabilize technilogy from Final Cut Pro Plugin or Motion in some scenes in this video?
I’ve a 5D mk II too, and some images present bizarre “comportament” because the vertical capture scene, making the horizontal frame too inclined, like 20 or 30 degress, depending the speed of the movement.
Did you note this?
Regards from Brazil.
Love the video. Haven’t started doing them on my MKII yet, but you’ve inspired me to do more.
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Excellent work Mr Laforet …i have a question about the helicopter footage over nyc .. did you use a steady cam device or was that the cameras built in steady???
Great work Vincent! I really like to have a EOS 5D Mark II too 😛
Hi Vincent, first of all, congratulation for your excellent work.
I have no idea how to let canon people know my concern about exposure bracketing in canon 5d mkii. I think the firmware can be modified to enhance to five or seven shots. It is very important for HDR photography to get more than three. I hope you can transmit my concern to Canon. Thanks in advance.
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In it something is. Thanks for the help in this question. All ingenious is simple.
Nice video, the current tech move to bigger chip sizes from DSLR’s is exciting me more and more each day. I really think this is the way that all “video cameras” will end up.
I especially liked the boxing footage.
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Nice video!
And smugmug video player sux, the minute count appear in front of the video =/
Hi Vincent,
nice work,(I guess no need for me to say eh?)
One little problem of my Mark II recently is: after upgrading to 24 frame/sec, I kind of lose the smoothness of the movement no matter in 24 or 25 frame/sec(and those are the only choices I have now, no more 30f/s), When I came to think of that, I think it’s because of the shutter thing. I couldn’t find a way to have the shutter speed adjusted while being in the video mode.
When I rewatch your video, you don’t seem to have that smoothness problem at all, (let’s compare those still shots only, cam still, actors moving), were you in 30f/s 25? or 24 then?
Yet if I want to trans the video into film later on, 24 is the only choice for me for now I guess. So what should I do with the smoothness problems? And will they have 48 of 96f/s in the future for it would have been so handy for slow motions.
Wish that you can give me some hints on that.
Thank you.
Doug CHAN
http://www.dougchanmotionpictures.com/
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@Justin, I agree with Justin, its a superb work
Excellent video, I liked it .. especially the girl in red dress
Your video is impressive, footage looks great, and I like the music. What do you think about the new Final Cut Pro X that’s coming out? We just finished a 48 film festival and we shot nine scenes in one day – the camera crew was exhausted!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Congrats on finishing the festival! Haven’t had a chance to try Final Cut Pro X yet…
Stunning work and quite inspiring to what can be achieved with the right ideas, skills, patience and equipment!
hey..very nice video player..and very nice concept for using the camera.
The usual idea is that you would use NFC to set up the link between the two devices and then do an automatic hand over to a different protocol for doing the actual transfer of data – eg Bluetooth,iphone 5
thanks for the great video! this truly inspiring for aspiring students like me to create short films and someday go on mainstream! lol!
thank you for sharing this work sir, i am following your blog for a month now to give me insights and tips concerning the photography,film making and others. and i am really glad i did. continue to inspire students and aspirants.
Wow, it so amazing! I’ve seen the videos that you post and I love it. I am really very impressed with the video that you created. You make the tips and tricks that are very great for the cameras. Your video really gives a source of inspiration for everyone.
vincent–
i havent gotten a chance to thank you for ‘cinematic approach to photography’ and the help you gave me when i would occasionally email you. you’re a great photographer, and an overall good guy!
Dallas Photographer Les Wollam
Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 6th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Appreciate it! Thanks! v
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