My Gear: Audio
Mitra 3D Mic Pro from Vincent Laforet on Vimeo.
The video above was shot with the Mitra 3D Mic and a Zoom H4N (see below for more details.) For a discount of the mic Go to www.3dmicpro.com and use coupon code VL3D0012 during checkout.
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744t: Portable, Four-Track Audio Recorder | B&H | Mfr. Site | |
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VL: This is a ROCK solid sound recorder used on professional movie sets. This means that it is also out of most people’s price range (see the Zoom H4N below for a great alternative.) I’ve defaulted to this right away because I found that with any interview setup or dialogue in a narrative – you will quickly be using more than 2 audio inputs. Always get an audio recorder that has rechargeable batteries (in case you use mics w/ Phantom power) and that have no moving pieces – i.e. in this case you can record to a CF card. When you don’t have moving pieces – you have fewer points of failure. And never forget: one of the major differences between an Indy film and a blockbuster hollywood production is the quality of sound. Never overlook the need for high quality audio – especially for dialogue scenes. Voiceovers are expensive and time consuming – and sometimes you can never get them to match with the acting on set. This unit also has time code which is great – as you can sync your slate and other devices to it – so all are on the same "timecode" page. Description (from Sound Devices): The 744T is a powerful four-track file-based digital audio recorder. The super-compact 744T records and plays back audio to and from its internal hard drive, Compact Flash cards, and external FireWire drives, making field recording simple and fast. It writes and reads uncompressed PCM audio at 16 or 24 bits with sample rates between 32 kHz and 192 kHz. Compressed (MP3) audio recording and playback from 64 kb/s to 320 kb/s is also supported. The time code implementation makes the 744T ready for any recording job—from over-the-shoulder to cart-based production. |
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NTG-2 Condenser Shotgun Microphone | B&H | Mfr. Site | |
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VL: I’ve found this to be an excellent shotgun mic - with excellent base. Description (from Rode): The new RODE NTG-2 is a lightweight condenser shotgun microphone, designed for professional applications within the film, video, television and production industries.The NTG-2 provides a balanced low impedance output stage and operates either from an internal 1.5 V battery (AA) or 48 V to the P48 standard. A wide bandwidth and controlled polar response coupled with low noise SMT electronics, makes the NTG-2 the perfect choice for film, video engineering and voice-over work. |
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Go to www.3dmicpro.com and use coupon code VL3D2011 during checkout for a 15% filmmaker discount. VL: This is an extremely effective and interesting microphone – especially for time lapse / scenic videos where you want to immerse people in the environment. Description (from Mitra): Mitra Corp. designed 3D Mic Pro, an immersive sound imaging microphone which uses patent pending technology to capture breathtaking binaural like immersive sound in any sound recorder or video camera equipped with Mic/Line/XLR socket. The recorded immersive sound can be played back in any audio video system through a pair of closely placed speakers or by headphones or ear-buds. 3D Mic Pro brings the immersive 3D sound in handheld devices such as MP3 players, Smartphones, Tablets. For the very first time 3D Mic Pro makes professional quality 3D sound production practical and affordable for musicians, videographers, sound engineers, naturalists, Radio Jockeys and hobbyists. Anyone can now record professional quality immersive sound in YouTube videos, professional or home videos, indi film productions, garage band demo CDs, nature sound recordings or stereo radio broadcasts. Possibilities are only limited by imagination. |
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Go to www.3dmicpro.com and use coupon code VL3D2011 during checkout for a 15% filmmaker discount. VL: This is the Indie version of the 3D Mic. It contains only 1 Mic level phono output, and not the two XLR outputs. Description (from Mitra):3D Mic Indie is designed to offer exceptional value and affordability for any DSLR filmmakers. It has exact same immersive sound engine as 3D Mic Pro, so it will capture same breathtaking true-to-life immersive sound in a DSLR or a sound recorder. The only way it differs from the big brother 3D Mic Pro is in its audio connectivity. 3D Mic Indie offers only phono socket to connect it with any DSLR, video camera or audio recorder. The recorded immersive sound can be played back in any audio video system through a pair of closely placed speakers or by headphones or ear-buds. 3D Mic Indie brings the immersive 3D sound in handheld devices such as MP3 players, Smartphones, Tablets. 3D Mic Indie makes professional quality 3D sound production practical and affordable for musicians, videographers, sound engineers, naturalists, Radio Jockeys and hobbyists. Anyone can now record professional quality immersive sound in YouTube videos, professional or home videos, indi film productions, garage band demo CDs, nature sound recordings or stereo radio broadcasts. Possibilities are only limited by imagination. |
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KE-89CC Avalon Series Internal Cabled Boom Pole | B&H | Mfr. Site | |
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VL: A must have part of any audio kit. This is a great starting off point for your audio kit. Description (from K-Tek): Crafted in cost-effective aluminum tubing, Avalon boom poles are designed to meet the needs of ENG and DV Camera crews. The series offers many of the same benefits of the original Klassic boom poles in an affordable package — eliminating some deluxe features but without sacrificing any of the K-Tek quality. |
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ew 100 G3 Wireless Microphone System | B&H | Mfr. Site | |
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VL: This is the first kit I purchased and I use it to this day. The Sennheiser wireless units are pretty standard across the industry. Remember – you need one set PER actor… and if you get two sets make sure you get them on different frequencies – Sennheiser sells them as separate packages for that reason. Description (from Sennheiser): This ENG set offers a great amount of flexibility for portable recording indoors or outdoors. Its SKP 100 G3 plug-on transmitter transforms XLR equipped devices (such as microphones and mixing consoles) into wireless devices by simply plugging the unit in. The bodypack transmitter, as well as the plug on, can be synced up to the receiver with the simple push of a button. A very small high-quality omni-directional clip-on microphone completes this set. |
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HD 380 pro Circumaural Monitoring Headphones | B&H | Mfr. Site | |
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VL: These are good dependable headphones – it is essential for the audio engineer and director to be listening to sound as they shoot dialogue – so they can pick up anything that the human ear isn’t… and may be extremely difficult to fix in post. Description (from Sennheiser): The HD 380 Pro professional monitoring headphone is designed to exceed the demands of the professional environment. The HD 380 Pro provides an extended frequency response with increased sound pressure level (up to 110 dB) for accurate sound reproduction in demanding applications. Not only that, but the lightweight, secure and rugged design offers a comfortable listening experience for long recording sessions. |
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H4n X/Y Stereo Recorder | B&H | Mfr. Site |
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VL: The Zoom H4n has pretty much become the industry standard for all photojournalists / documentary filmmakers and indy filmmakers out there. It can mount on any HDDSLR Rig big or small and has EXCELLENT audio. Unless you are working on a long-form narrative or with multiple actors – this will serve you very very well. It’s simple, has built-in stereo mikes and is incredibly portable – what more can I say? This is the way to go unless you need something like the 744T above for more demanding/complex productions. Great for reporters too! Description: The Zoom H4n Handy Recorder picks up where the H4 left off and adds additional features to an already popular audio recorder. Ideal for recording interviews, lectures, rehearsals, meetings, and more, this palm-sized unit packs the ability to record up to 4 channels of audio at greater than CD quality. |
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DR-100mkII 2 Channel Linear PCM Recorder | B&H | Mfr. Site |
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VL: I’ve been a big fan of the Zoom H4N for awhile – but recently I’ve found myself using the Tascam. Description: The rugged TASCAM DR-100mkII offers high-end recording features to musicians and engineers who demand more from their portable recorder. It features four built-in microphones, two cardioid and two omnidirectional, for great sounding recordings. A pair of XLR microphone inputs with phantom power welcomes pro-grade condenser microphones, and line in and out connectors are also provided. The markII version adds balanced line ins, S/PDIF digital inputs, locking connectors and more. |
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DR-40 Handheld Digital Audio Recorder | B&H | Mfr. Site |
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VL: Again – after 2 yeas of working with the Zoom – this line of Tascams is well worth a look. We’re still in the process of testing them out over a period of months before I draw any final conclusions – but so far: EXCELLENT. Description: he adjustable mics, four-track recording and extended battery life of the TASCAM DR-40 give you the flexibility you need to record tracks anywhere. The DR-40 captures up to four tracks from built-in, high-quality condenser microphones, XLR mic or line inputs. The internal mics are adjustable from XY to AB position, helping you to tailor your recording to the sound of the room. A pair of great-sounding TASCAM microphone preamps welcome condenser microphones with phantom power, recording at up to 96kHz/24-bit resolution. It accommodates balanced XLR or 1/4" line inputs using locking Neutrik Combo jacks. The DR-40 accepts SD or SDHC cards up to 32GB, and a 2GB card is included. |
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Was a bit surprised not to see the Zoom h4n handheld recorder – I’ve read a number of people use it on DSLR video shoots, but then again, it’s a cheaper solution than these, definitely.
I used to use the HD 280 Pro headphones. Now I’ve switched to the Audio-Technica ATH-A900 – but I use these for everything. The 280 had a pretty flat frequency response and the ATH-A900 seems to have a reputation for exaggerated stereo separation (it certainly has a lot more than the 280) but I like it more. I can pick up very faint sounds with both just fine.
I’m learning quite a bit from these lists, thanks!
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No the H4N should be up there and will go up soon! I use the 744T but as I mentioned we’re working on this and continuously adding toit!
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During your 3-day online class, may I know about the thin wire around your ear, and the handheld mike used, please?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 12:45 am
@Billy, Not sure what those were – they were supplied by the creativeLIVE crew…
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I’m wondering what you recommend for audio with amateur filming. I purchased a Canon 550D and a couple lens, but since the 550D has no audio input, when does someone with a low budget go from here?
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Do you have any more affordable ideas for wireless mics? I’d like to record the audio directly into the movie file via wireless mic and receiver…
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Vincent, it seems that with respect to the ew 100 G3 Wireless Microphone System you may choose to buy multiple systems in the same frequency range (i.e., in Frequency Range A: 516–558 MHz, Frequency Range B 626–668 MHz, or Frequency Range G 566–608). I was confused by the commentary since I thought I should go for different frequency ranges when buying more than one system but in fact you can buy many systems on the same frequency range—if you want interoperability between receivers and transmitters you have to select what Senheisser calls Channels in in the same Bank (the ew 100 has 12 channels per Bank and a total of 20 Banks). In any case, I just ordered the Sennheiser EW 100 G3 Series Dual Basic Kit (A / 516 – 558 MHz) from B&H and wanted to thank you for all of the advice and information from your Gear section. It is unparalleled and has been instrumental in helping me navigate the myriad of choices out there.
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I am looking at investing in some audio gear for my DSLR shooting. If I bought the H4n recorder, could I plug the Sennheiser transmitter into it with the 1/8″ to XLR cable? I’m not familiar with enough with the Senn setup to know if it’s capable of going line level, or only mic level? And furthermore, is the H4n able to record, lets say, two channels of audio from the onboard mics, and the other two record what comes into the transmitter from the wireless pack?
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should i use the h4n internal mic or is it bether to connect an external mic on one of the 2 inputs ?
grtz
e.s.
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Re the recommendation for the Zoom H4N . . . In researching various recorders in the same price range, the Sony PCM-M10 and Olympus LS-10/LS-11 seem to have better spex (although no XLR inputs) and seem to get excellent reviews.
Just wondering if you (or others) have looked at these and had any comments.
Thanks.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
August 27th, 2011 at 12:15 am
I wouldn’t buy any recorder w/o XLR – you’re going to severely limit yourself long term as you’ll likely want to use mics…
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@Brett Alton,
slate the piece and then write the sound file on the slate. This would be how you slate a piece, you will have to use a digital recorder with shotgun mic, probably a H4N because it keeps sync, and or a marantz, remember people can forgive bad picture but never bad sound, ok that is my response
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are you pleased with the results of the h4n in “quiet”/indoor environments? that seems to be the rub with this device — a fair amount of “hiss” when there is not a lot of ambient sound to overtake the hissing, some report that it is even difficult to remove this in post. is the 3d mic in the video above (sounds great!) going directly into the h4n, or do you have the signal passing through a preamp or other circuitry first? the cables drop below the frame so i can’t follow the path visually
although i’m watching for IBC2011 news before buying, i’m about to purchase the h4n (after happily using an edirol r1 for years — love the analog input volume dial), one of the main reasons being the usb audio interface option for recording to my mac and/or ipad — very handy to have a decent portable recorder that doubles as a decent stereo i/o box for DAW sketches. any experience with this operation, the usb i/o with a computer? i have read that the quality is usable in this mode but is diminished from the internal recording. subjective comments, i know, but this is why i come to you for guidance.
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As a freelancer on a budget (just starting out in the business world)…I could not go out and get my dream camera, (something like a Panasonic 615) but I do have a nice Canon Vixia HFS100 and the audio was always an issue…..until a few days ago.
I just got a Zoom H4n, a product I’ve been meaning to get for a while and probably should have picked up a long time ago. This little recorder is outstanding in price and the quality is great for the price range. Now I can skip those XLR/Mini cable adapters and just run all XLR as well as have a backup source of audio running directly with the on board camera audio.
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About the 744T entry: phantom power is independent of the ultimate power source of the recorder or mixer that provides it. It does not depend on that source having rechargeable batteries.
The post-sound process you seem to be describing (and calling voiceover) is called ADR, which stands for Automated Dialogue Replacement. It is also sometimes still informally referred to as “looping” because of how it used to be done. Voiceover is a way dialogue overlays picture in a particular way.
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I had a question regarding audio equipment for an extremely skeleton crew. I was asked to follow some friends down to Phoenix to shoot a documentary on them as they go through the process of recording an album. Now, given they will be having small quarters for living and will be taking me down with them I figured I may be the only person in my crew. What would you recommend for capturing the best audio outside of sit down face to face interviews?
Thanks.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
October 13th, 2011 at 12:36 am
The Zoon H4N has done me a lot of good. I use the Sound Devices 744T as well (see audio page in gear section for all of this) but it’s overkill for what you’re talking about. These are all digital recorders and in my opinion the mics and the way you use them should be the primary focus…
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@Rodman,
I am looking into getting the same dual kit that you mentioned (Sennheiser EW 100 G3 Series Dual Basic Kit (A / 516 – 558 MHz) and was wondering how it has worked out for you.
Are you able to run both of the lavs simultaneously, specifically two individuals speaking at the same time?
This is a requirement for a project and am hoping this set will do the trick.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
-Alex
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I know this is very low end, but I’ve found excellent results from the Zoom H1. If setup correctly and positioned correctly it delivers excellent results, and only costs $99. It’s like a baby H4n.
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Bonjour Vincent
What is you opinion on audio-technica’s stereo and shotgun mics?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Haven’t used them – I own Rhode mics – but I’m not an audio guy to be honest!
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I’m LOVING the potential of a 3D Mic Pro. A lot of my work is a quick set up interview where it’d take too long to lav mic each individual person. Or two person interviews.
Would a 3D Mic Pro be good for this? I’m willing to spend the money, and I’d rather not have to have a kit of different mics for different situations (although I know it’s not unavoidable), but would it pick up too much ambient noise (if it’s an interview in a semi-crowded room? Not a party, or anything, just typical office noise.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 27th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
I’m afraid you’d pick up too much ambient… you’d want two shotgun mics more likely for what you are looking to do. (or two lavs) IMO
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Hi Vincent,
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. As an audio guy in the video business here is a link to our ‘LittleVoice Tech’ blog. We have just started it and will populate it with much more if people want to learn more about audio for video:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL28B9D883A38DF99C&feature=plcp
Best
Rob
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I heard the Zoom H4n has poor preamps and do not work very well with the NTG-2. What is your opinion on this? Thank you very much.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Haven’t had an issue on our end.
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Hi Vincent,
Was interested to see which headphones you were using and I see you went for the Sennheiser HD 380 Pro’s. I recently wrote a short blog on what some of the best headphones for film editors might be and I ended up choosing between the 380′s and the BeyerDynamic 770 Pro’s, but in the end I went for the 770′s. Thought your readers might be interested in the run down of the best headphones available…
http://jonnyelwyn.co.uk/film-and-video-editing/what-are-the-best-headphones-for-film-editors/
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Hi Vincent, Great info, thanks for sharing.
I picked up a NTG-2 and have been using it a lot.
I run a local public access station and recently I have been asked to do outdoor live band recordings.
Plugging into the sound board is not always an option.
The NTG-2 on camera gives me cleaner audio than the sound board but it does sound a little distant or tinny. Is there a better option for outdoor band recording? 3D mic ?
- J
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It’s funny but looking over your audio page i have purchased everyone of your suggestions from the lav, shotgun, 3d and the h4n. not to mention many of your other suggestions and i gotta say i have been very happy. i don’t have much opportunity to work with filmmakers in my small town so blogs like yours are very helpful to purchase this stuff without a hands on chance. so thanks!
i am looking for a better lav mic than what came with the 100 G3 and i didn’t know do you have any suggestions? is there anything that can be worn under a shirt? something you can conceal without the noise of movement? any direction on this it would be appreciated… not sure if this is even possible?
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hello, can you propose a hanheld recorder to use iwth my 3d mics?
i have the SP-TFB2 binaural MICS by sound professionals, so wich recorder you think would work best with them? THANKS!
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Nice Blog! And thanks for sharing many audio equipments and their information which are very helpful and interesting for us.
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i want to buy these parts as shown at video .
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Hey Vincent,
Just curious which settings you use while recording on the Tascam DR-40 for the best quality.
Thanks!
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