Two Pretty Amazing shots with the MōVI and the RED Epic Infra Red in 5K
That ONE shot you missed… the one you will never forgive yourself for missing… you know the one?
Yeah – the one that you never forget, even though it never happened…
Outside of “killing your babies” in filmmaking parlance (translation: editing out your favorite / gorgeous shots in favor of what’s best for the edit/flow of a piece), the shots you missed are always the hardest to distance yourself from – as a director, or as a photographer come to think of it.
Well there was such a shot we never got to, when we filmed the inaugural MōVI short… one that involved a handoff… a rope… and… well let have you see the video below to understand what we were after before I completely spoil it for you.
Let’s just say that that one shot stuck with Tabb Firchau, Hugh Bell (two of the co-founders of Freefly Systems and the MōVI) and myself for weeks after the successful launch of the MōVI – and we couldn’t wait to get the team back together for a second try at it…
You’ll see two Infra Red shots in the short below – the first one is a long tracking shot made at 48fps at 5K on a modified RED Epic – note that not a single one of the shots in this piece have been post-stabilized whatsoever. What you are seeing is straight out of the camera and the MōVI with the exception of a little grading (contrast/saturation/neutralization of greys) – that’s it.
The second was our “trick shot” … more after the video…
The RED Epic used on this shoot had the IR pass filter removed from the body – leading to some pretty gorgeous results. Notably at 5K. It’s pretty damn stunning to say the least… My guess is that after people see this, I’ll have a hard time borrowing one of those bodies myself. We used an IR filter taped to the front element of the Canon 24mm T1.5 lens which we had to shoot at F11 (ND filters don’t work in IR… so we were forced to shoot at 48 fps, a 90 degree shutter, and T11 to minimize the depth of field, as well as the reverse vignetting that takes place at that small of an aperture – always shoot as close to wide open as you can when shooting Infra Red to minimize this “bloom” effect. )
DP Polly Morgan (who worked on Mobius with me) and I worked out the shot together for the two Infra RED shots. While we did do only about 10 takes total for the 2 shots – I have to say a special thank you to editor (and in this case stand-in camera operator) Jon Carr, as well as the SCO Sisters (the gorgeous Brazilian triplets) as well as models Heather Fusari (blue haired beauty) and Jacqueline Buda (hero shot swimsuit model) for their patience during the setting up and perfecting of the shot. While we had no 1st AD, the biggest factor for me as a director was not the camera or the move, but making sure everyone was in their specific places, at specific times (without the use of radios…) That’s why I would walk behind the camera with a wireless monitor and call out the action.
Special thanks to The Music Bed for what is becoming one of our favorite sources for great music. Featured as songs from Weaver at The Loom (Encyclopedia (Galactica) – Instrumental) and Lowercase Noises (An Ocean Tumbled By.) Special thanks to Ted Schilowitz, Brian Henderson, Nate Heartt, Jeroen Hendricks, Matthew Goodwin, Ken Fisher, Toby Sali, David Wolvek and the incredible location Hollywoodland.
The initial MōVI piece was a pleasure to work on – but the truth is that we were learning on the job. We had never shot with the MōVI and I didn’t really know just what it could or could not do… and as a director, when you mix that in with stringing a long series of never-ending shots (which pretty much breaks every rule you learn about coverage and the art of the edit) it was challenging to say the least.
This was my 3rd job with the MōVI – and Tabb, Hugh and I finally got to make the second IR shot happen. We nailed it on the 3rd take if I remember correctly. The setup and execution took less than 20 minutes – and it was pretty magical to watch the replay.
The biggest surprise I’ve experience (now on my 4th shoot with the MōVI) and having heard the experiences of other directors/DPs that have worked with the gimbal – is just how fast you can now work. DSLRs definitely helped speed things up significantly for many of us over the past 5 years, as have compact cameras in general. The MōVI truly takes that to the next level – and with little to no sacrifice. If anything the biggest thing you’ll have to fight is the need to make every single shot complex… the secret to the MōVI is it’s not only its ability to pull off incredibly complex takes – but mostly to do simply dolly shots – pushes, slides or even locked off shots in my opinion. You can run through a series of shots at warp speed. It’s incredibly liberating… To that end, the last piece we shot with the MōVI (the 4th piece) is being edited now, and the goal with that one: standard coverage. Short takes mixed in with traditional length takes and moves… not too much fancy stuff. Good old coverage and shots – just done with a new tool. At about 3 to 5 times the pace we’re all used to…
I’ll leave you with a final anecdote: When I premiered “Reverie,” the first short shot with the Canon 5D MKII five years ago in front of 500 artists on a 50 foot screen at Industrial Light and Magic – I had the honor of meeting Dennis Muren. Denis is one of the Godfathers of Special FX, notably Star Wars, A.I., Super 8, Twister, Jurrasic Park, E.T. – you know small films… when he first saw the footage coming out of the 5D MKII he had a very prescient comment: “This is going to lead to a lot of shallow depth of field garbage footage…” he said. Frank and sadly, somewhat true… We’ve all learned that shooting a narrative a T1.2 on a 50mm on closeup with an actor going in and out of focus with every breath, ISN’T a good idea…
I think the MōVI will lead to some incredibly complex shots, and long takes – but with any “game changing” technology comes the need for discipline: you will need to CONSTANTLY remind yourself that you don’t need to make every take an “epic” one…
You’ll need to remind yourself that: “Just because you can… doesn’t mean you should…” and sometimes if not often “less is more.” And oh yeah: K.I.S.S. – Keep It Simple Stup#d…. because while the tool will open up so many doors and creative possibilities, it won’t re-define the way we should shoot coverage, or the pacing of cinema. And the beauty of the MōVI is that you can do a 10 minute take just as easily as a 10 second slide, let alone a 2 second locked off shot.
Tags: MōVI
Vince you can get IR-pass NDs. I used them while shooting IR on the Red One “Infra” camera on Reggio’s new film. In fact, you should not shoot IR without them. They really make the IR effect pop.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 21st, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Cool thanks Tom – link?
looks phenomenal vince!
so glad the rope shot finally got its day in the sun!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 21st, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Thanks T!
Amazing work Vince. Great vision and execution
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 am
Many thanks!
Makes me want to cry, in a good way…
The rope trick was like magic. Which light were you using handheld to fill that model?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 11:47 am
It’s in the article… Area 48 http://www.bbslighting.com
Looks as awesome now as when it had its big debut. Going to be interesting seeing it pop up more and more.
Also, did you and Freefly do the second MoVi giveaway? I’m waiting to hear my name called and get one of these!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 am
That’s coming… we’re working on it!
I noticed the 24mm showed some IR hotspotting- did you guys correct for it in post?
Zeiss made a (rare) set still-photo prime lenses specifically for IR shooting in Nikon mount (ZF-IR).
Theres also a bunch of listings online of regular glass that don’t show the hotspotting as much.
http://dpanswers.com/content/irphoto_lenses.php
Love the video- I can’t wait till Movi’s are available in rental here in NYC.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 am
Great resources – yes we mitigated the hotspotting as best we could in post.
that hand off shot is insane !
Beautiful stuff… would like to see the final project.
If this would have been a tribute to Serghey Urusevsky then you would have had decency. He done this back in 1964 without any remote shit and made cinema out of it. Just filming girl in swimming suit does not make you a filmmaker. You should have sticked to photos !
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 am
Ken – arrogant people like you really get under my skin. To those out there here is the original shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AtjvXVGT9A
For the record I had never seen it… but I had heard from it from a dozen people after they saw the shot we pulled off together. I’m glad your shit attitude finally made me look it up. And by the way – this was a CAMERA TEST not a film… Serghey’s shot is indeed gorgeous shot. Do me a favor: next time you see a friend do a Steadicam shot scream at him for copying Garrett Brown will ya? or Kubick! Everything is a remix… why don’t you shut your trap and learn something constructive: http://everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/
ken Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 1:05 pm
@Vincent Laforet,
Thanks for the link. It’s not the fact that is a test that makes me laugh, but seeing seeing hearing that guy saying what a mad thing he did…as he has discovered it!
I will scream at a steadycam operator claiming he is doing something really mad and not seen until now, as your team does. I know things have been done before, that’s why I dont understand why shouting what an extraordinary thing you do!
Oh, and, if not true, then why did you get so angry?
Oliver Peng Reply:
May 23rd, 2013 at 12:37 am
@Vincent Laforet, gotta love the armchair critics.. Thanks for taking the time to share this with the world!
Bob Reply:
May 22nd, 2013 at 7:01 pm
@ken, What is the point of your comment? I’m pretty sure Serghey would welcome this technology. Sure call it a tribute if it makes you feel better. Get outside and get some fresh air.
Yep, great stuff! BTW, “less is more” is almost always the case. – And don’t let arrogant people get under your skin, you’ll end up with a bad complexion. 🙂
That’s telling him Vincent. He obviously doesn’t have much sense if he can’t recognize your beautiful work. You’re a great source of knowledge and information for all of us who follow you.
I love it! Fantastic work, and looks like it was a blast to work with some like minded people. I would love to get my hands on that rig.
Bravo. Do people like that think we should all put our cameras away and never shoot anything again, since everything’s “already been done”?
Moreover, should we shoot nothing out of fear that some douche is going to come up with some obscure reference to a film made before many of us were born that looks somewhat similar to what we did, and accuse us of a ripoff?
Or maybe that’s all crap and we should just get out and do what we love and create something, without listening to the people who give us a thousand reasons why we can’t (as an excuse for their own shortcomings?).
The only people who’ll never accomplish anything are those who make excuses about why they can’t. Keep up the good work, Vincent.
As we say in Portuguese…. DO CARAÇAS!!! Very nice job! And in fact, what is important is that you keep on finding ways of doing things better . It’s possible to see that you really love what you do and and that you love to make it better and better. Best regards
Vincent Laforet is THEE MAN!!! I hope to God I get to shoot some awesome stuff with this rig one day!!!
How long do you think it took Urusevsky to prep the shot? and how long did you take Vince?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 25th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
It took us 45 min for each setup – no idea how long he took! Days for sure given the number of extras…
Siva Reply:
May 26th, 2013 at 10:09 am
@Vincent Laforet, on a lighter note, Ken should accuse you of taking the idea of Sergei Urusevsky who was influenced by Aleksander Calzatti who was inspired by the opening scene of Hitchcock’s Psycho…
So Vincent, now I accuse you of not making this a tribute to Hitchcock and John Russell (not sure what inspired him though) …. 😀
Here is the link – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ScPv_5gzHc
Though I am not a film maker, I am learning the art of film making.
Keep up the good work.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
May 27th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Good one sir!
The possibilities are endless. And the creative people can spend less time in setting up the shots…
I watched the 3 minute long Soy Cuba shot… and was curious to find out how it was done. So in essence using Movi like tools will reduce the time it takes to shoot something like this, without compromising the quality of the shot in anyway.
From http://www.filmreference.com/Writers-and-Production-Artists-Ta-Vi/Urusevsky-Sergei.html
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The shots in I Am Cuba are long and elaborately composed; many consist of a single take that runs over two minutes. In order to secure the changes in angles and the twists in the point of view the camera had not only been hand-held most of the time, but at times had to be handled by two operators. The nearly three-minute-long complex single-take opening scene on the hotel roof had to be shot 17 times; it involves vertical and horizontal movement of the camera operator, a combination of panoramic shots and extreme close ups, as well as the coordination of more than 100 extras.
Read more: http://www.filmreference.com/Writers-and-Production-Artists-Ta-Vi/Urusevsky-Sergei.html#ixzz2UQ22PmNh
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Man, that’s amazing!
Thanks for sharing it!
When I saw that second scene going over the railing I was impressed, but then when I saw how it was done and still smooth.. wow.
when I saw it with a friend, iI did see the resemblance to “Soy Cuba” but that’s it, what you did is amazing and gorgeous with the modern tools to make it, were is the video on how you made it, it was here but now I don’t find it
this is the another shot of that movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BhMGrdA2Ag
Looks superb. Thanks for posting. I’m curious of the exposure and shutter differences in shooting on a converted IR camera. I’m considering experimenting with a basic stereo rig; with one converter IR Camera and one standard, then masking out the unwanted elements of both, in both images. I can’t find any reference to anyone doing this before, which kind of worries me. Am I missing something obvious? I like the way skin is rendered in IR and am making a short with humanoid robots. So the flesh elements would be IR and the rest in standard. Only problem is I want to see if I can shoot on two Blackmagic pocket cameras, and they don’t have a genlock option. I’m not technically shooting in stereo, but not having shutter sync may cause problems. Am I setting myself up to fail here? Any thoughts would be great….Thanks
Vince, beautifully shot and edited. I’m curious how did you get such smooth playback on Vimeo during the fast pans (e.g., 1:36 – 1:47). When I pan this fast it gets very jerky in Vimeo or Youtube players. Did you use some trick in rendering?
Vincent Laforet Reply:
November 26th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Not at all – just simple export.
Dude, that is gorgeous. Not just the infrared photography and smoothness of the shot, or even the really sweet hand off, but also the music. What is it?
Vince, where can I find an Infrared Modified Epic? I am working in LA and would like to rent one. Thanks for any heads up! Keep up the good work!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
February 21st, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RED
Vince, great work! Do you know where I could rent this camera in LA? I am assuming this is the only model…or is there a guy that does these mods himself?
Thanks!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
February 21st, 2014 at 11:49 pm
RED is only place I know of
Hey Vince, would you mind telling me what that ring was that you had mounted to the movi for the caribiner? Thanks!