Just So You Know That I’m Not Alone…
It’s been a very interesting year for both Photography and Cinematrography with the release of HD-DSLR cameras.
Those who have read this blog understand that I’ve become somewhat of a lightning rod/evangelist for this new technology and how I believe that it has the potential to change both professions.
At times I see the skeptical comments on this blog or a puzzled look from an audience members when I give a speech. So it’s nice to know that I’m not alone in this.
Shane Hurlbut, a very successful Director of Photography and ASC member has also jumped into this world with both feet. Shane has a new blog that I want to introduce you to as well as a new contest that you might be interested in participating in…
There’s so much that I could say about Shane – he’s perhaps the only person that is MORE enthusiastic about this technology than I am – and that’s saying a lot. We had a chance to meet at the Collision Conference in Los Angeles a few months ago and regularly talk about the latest gadgets and developing technologies. It’s been fun to see how we’ve each learned a bit from one another: Shane is now more comfortable shooting at 1600 ASA since meeting me (he stuck to around 500 ASA before we spoke) – and I’m less obsessed with stabilizing the 5D MKII with endless grip and gadgets.
And when people see my “franken-cameras” – then they obviously haven’t seen Shane’s use of Panavision Primo Prime lenses to the 5D MKII. Now that’s a site that will wake just about anyone up to how the landscape is changing. I suggest you go through Shane’s sites and you’ll find many excellent videos and still galleries.
The best part of all of this – is that I’ve known about all of the work that Shane’s been doing for months – but haven’t been at liberty to share it with everyone because a lot of it was under NDA / confidential.
Shane is currently working on what I believe may be the first full feature film shot almost entirely with the Canon 5D MKII. You will find clips on this site here. Clearly you will see that Shane is no slouch – he’s been DP on many big time feature films – including most recently Terminator Salvation. Clearly Shane has access to whatever toy / camera he needs in the world – the fact that he’s focusing so much time and energy on the 5D MKII should be a wake up call for everyone out there. Skeptics – take note. Shane works mostly on major Hollywood blockbusters and the fact that he’s dedicating so much of this time to this new technology is telling.
For now Shane is challenging viewers to pick out shots from his current Navy SEAL film project – and decided which ones are shot with the Canon 5D MKII, The Sony 950, and the ARRI 235. Check it out here. I’ve seen the results on a 50 foot screen and it’s hard to tell.
That’s an awesome Panavision “Primo” lens on the 5d! Have you had an opportunity to play with it and how does it compare to EF 800mm f/5.6L that you used on “First Look” with Jamie O’Brien?
I think Shane’s cinematic expertise on this trailer truly shines through … it’s exceptional! Thanks for blogging on this Vincent.
Two final questions, what are your plans for the “JOB” doc? And what commercial projects have you been shooting in L.A., any links? (i.e. the Audi spot)
Thanks,
J-dog
p.s. I’m re-inspired Vincent, needed that! Muchos gracias!
Vincent Laforet Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
@J-dog, The JOB project is on hold until we get some more moola – shooting surf films takes a lot of time and patience – as you have to wait for the waves… and then you need some expensive toys to stabilize the cameras on the water or helos… so when the economy comes back (it’s starting to) I see this all coming together. Personally I can’t wait. As far a releasing stuff – it’s tough – most o the productions I work for own the work as is the norm in the film/TV world. I’m working on a shoot in NY this week – and I likely won’t be able to show that until February for example… whenever I can I share things – but as you can understand: the client and their sensitivities comes first.
Hey Vince:
Thanks for the link to Shane Hurlbut’s website and for the great presentation in Baltimore last night. It’s great to have another resource in addition to your site, Stu’s and Philip Bloom’s.
Good luck with the rain and your shoot in NYC!
Vince:
I realized after seeing the Primo lens, I should have asked my question about prime lens differently. That’s why I asked twice. So….
Are you finding a preference for using PL mount as version Canon, Nikon primes? It would seem that the PL mount lens make it easier to pull focus where the others offer lighter weight and are less visible to people looking for permits.
Vincent Laforet Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
@Bill Strehl, PL won’t fit as of now – as it extends into the body and will make physical contact w/ the mirror. I have compared Canon lenses and PL lenses on the RED. And I haven’t see incredible differences. The Panavisions are another story – but I haven’t done “scientific” tests with them- just shot w/ them- perhaps Shane H. can chime in on this. He’s a BIG believer in their optical superiority. What IS clear – is that cinema lenses are MADE for cinema – they’re significantly easier to operate than still lenses – you’re paying for the mechanics of the lens and the way if breathes etc.
Shane Hurlbut Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
@Vincent Laforet, I cannot say enough about the resolving power of the Panavision Primo primes. They seem to give me more latitude with the 5D. I am seeing 1.5 stops more in overexposed areas and 1.5 stops more in the underexposed areas. They feel so cinematic and give you more play with the limited 8 BIT compressed color that comes out of this camera. Your color manipulation goes up exponentially.
Hi Vincet,
Just FYI, I believe Sybil Ludington is the first feature shot entirely on the 5D Mark II. I was DP and we shot the film in two weeks back in May. Editing is almost completed and a teaser trailer will be being released within a couple weeks! Obviously, I’m no where near on the same level as Shane and nobody even knows who we are, just wanted to point that out! 🙂
Vincent Laforet Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
@Tony Robinson, I’m not taking sides here – I think that whoever RELEASE a movie first – will be able to make the claim. A LOT of people have shot films w/ the 5D MKII – few if any have had a chance to release one. Please do let me know as soon as this happens with you – I’m EXTREMELY interested to see how it looks and happy to promote it here.
For a moment there I thought you had let slip that there was a new Sony Alpha 950 camera on the was with HD video. But I guess you are talking about the video camera not a new Alpha
Looks awfully familiar 😉
http://tinyurl.com/yznzpb4
Um, let me guess Shane is not asking Christian Bale to star in this one ?? 😉
Shane Hurlbut Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
@Damen Stephens, Christian Bale is not a real Navy SEAL, he is an amazing actor.
Vincent, congratulations on such an inspirational site. You are certainly not alone. I am new to this game and am shopping for an affordable camera that can provide truly professional results. I have shot stuff on a panasonic p2 and believed them to be an affordable option…especially when coupled with a lens adapter. However, the 5D MKII and its possibilities have me sleepless at night!!! I also appreciate your open and candid advice. Especially the link to Shane Hurlbut’s website.
Thanks for the inspiration and I look forward to more.
That image definitely made me do a double take. After checking out his main website I am really curious to see the blog and contest, but the links are not working. Am I the only one they won’t work for or did the site come down?
Shane Hurlbut Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 12:19 am
@MWynne, I am sorry about you not being able to get on the blog. Our server crashed, we had so many hits that it burnt the processor. YEAH BABY!!!! After the whole rush to get it back up and running, the Navy came forward and said we had to scrap the footage. Thank you so much for your time and participation. We will have new kick ass video up very soon. All the best
Vincent,
Thanks for all your info and free advice and help you give on your blog. Because of your understanding of DLSRS, I was wondering when are you going to post tests of the 7D or discuss it. I bought a 7D and recently returned it, I own a 5Dmk2 and found the 7D to be downright poor in comparison. Very fuzzy image and sloppy tonal range. Even tests I did with the HVX200A with Letus35 showed the 7d be inferior. Sure, it had less noise than the HVX, but no where near the resolution. What are your thoughts?
I wanted to thank everyone who participated in the contest. You ROCK!!!!! We had so many hits on Hurlbut Visuals with the 1080HD being viewed and downloaded that the server crashed at about 4:00am pst. Our technical support is working on getting us back up and running but you all slayed my server, burnt the processor. Feel great about that. The Navy has now said that they need to scrub the footage and we need to pull the MIO down, so we will be cutting our contest short. We will evaluate all the participants and post the winner. Once our server is back up we will be running a BMW lights commercial shot on the 5D and a Nikon D3 still camera. It is visual eye candy, super speed. Test of the 1D vs. 5D iso to follow. This is so amazing and I thank you all for the passion. Shane
I was wondering why the link was dead….guess thats a good thing in a funny sort of way. I for one was coming back again today to watch more
Shane Hurlbut Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 12:24 am
@christian garibaldi, I am so sorry Christian. Our server crashed last night at 4:00am PST. You guys, with all the downloading and traffic burnt the processor. YEAH BABY!!!! We are back up and running, but we had to scrap the footage per the Navy. So our contest will be cut short, but we will announce the winner Monday morning. New footage of a hybrid approach 5D and the Nikon D3
Here’s the just released teaser trailer for Sybil Ludington that I mentioned earlier in the comments. http://www.vimeo.com/7319897
Thanks Vincet! It was Reverie that inspired us to use the 5D MII to shoot Sybil.
Always enjoy reading your blog Vincent. I just found out that Shane is coming to my school Nov 12 to talk about the 5D and its impact on student films, can’t wait! Thanks for taking time to share this stuff! Would love to work on one of your shoots someday.
Shane Hurlbut Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 12:53 am
@Nick Keating, I look forward to meeting you. Make sure you come up and say hi. It should be a good time. I am unveiling the trailer for the untitled Navy Seal movie at Emerson. Have a great weekend.
Nick Keating Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 11:10 am
@Shane Hurlbut, Thanks Shane will do, look forward to meeting you and seeing the trailer!
Vincent thanks again for all your help. recently spoke with you at pdn new york seminar. I recently purchase the marshall monitor
and redrock cinema bundle. Please advise with the 5d mark 11
to get it to match the mark 2 monitor which seems to be accurate.
Is there a software to get proper results to rely on screen to match
canons monitor and rely on it for every thing. also any sugggestions with the redrock carbon micro and shorter lenses to get a nice center balance with mattebox and all. seems to have some flex. I’m using a cartoni fluidhead so the trouble isn’t there.
Thanks a million.
Brad VanDonsel
http://www.bvbdigital.com
Thanks for sharing, once again, Vincent! You’re awesome.
A shame to put such an nice lens on that little point & shoot toy.
i want to get a cam like that but consider the price, as high as a regular car in here, i can not afford that
Canon 5D Mark II forever!
that is a pretty cool photo but that most definitely is not a prime lens. It is s primo zoom lens.
Josh, that is the 3-1 Primo Zoom. It is a 135-420mm. When you use the 5D you need to put a 1.4x Extender on it or it vignettes up to 260mm. With the 7D an extender is not needed.
The first link seems to be down right now
That is quite an amazing setup!
Another anazing post Vince, I love reading your blog I must say!
Thanks!
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