Canon 5D MKIII – my thoughts
Welcome the Canon 5D MKIII to the world everyone! As you know this site’s history and I have a long history with it’s predecessor the Canon 5D MKII and "Reverie" (see video below.)
I obviously didn’t choose to thrown my hat into the ring in the quest to shoot a sequel to Reverie for the launch of this camera - and that is due to four main reasons:
1. I find it foolish to mess with a good thing…
2. The specs on this camera don’t necessarily warrant it.
3. No clean HDMI out… why…why…why? (not!?)
4. I thought that the Canon C300 was a bigger leap forward – and therefore chose to throw my hat in the ring to shoot "Mobius" just a few months ago for the Hollywood launch of Canon’s Cinema EOS line at Paramount in Hollywood. Canon’s move into the cinema market was a much bigger development in my book – pretty spectacular given how quickly it happened, following the MKII’s launch a few years earlier. The C300 is in effect the Canon 5D MKII all grown up – but a pure video camera (not a still camera.)
To be frank, this camera has a few minor (but quite important to higher end users) upgrades to it’s little brother. There are in effect a lot of SMALL yet very IMPORTANT changes that will have a significant impact on those using this camera in actual PRODUCTIONS.
Some will find the 2 stops of low light performance to be very welcome – this camera comes second only to the Canon EOS 1Dx camera in low light performance – and both are spectacular in that regard.
In terms of video – you now get 60fps – but sadly still limited to 720p – not 1080p.
BUT you’ll get 720p out during record given the new processor – which is going to be reason enough for many to upgrade to the body for production.
There are also two versions of timecode included in camera that will be very welcome to most – although it’s not the production type of timecode that some will need. Nonetheless – it will work given how we’ve figured out to get around these issues over the past 3+ years now.
You can now also shoot close to 30 minutes of video/interviews straight (w/ 3 separate clips that are stitched together) as opposed to the very annoying 12 minute clips of its predecessor.
A headphone jack is well.. welcome. You can also now manually control the audio… so many of the "issues" with the 5D MKII have been fixed – although I’m not convinced the moire/aliasing will be eliminated based on my experience with the 1Dx. Canon however is claiming it will be significantly improved – and I’m rooting for them to be right! Here’s a sample video that seems to confirm this nicely.

I am also guessing that the jello will be improved as well given the faster DIGIC processor.
It’s still the same AVC H.264 codec, but compression choices are ALL-I intraframe or IPB interframe (every frame stands for itself. Better for editing) with embedded FreeRun or RecRun timecodes. This is nice. Can it by synced externally? It seems so: "SMPTE timecode support provides greater editing flexibility and easier integration into multi-camera shoots."
As we know this codec should boast a nicer quality than what we’re used to from the Canon HDSLR’s (and others for that matter).
Here is one of the two sample videos I’ve seen so far – the aliasing looks to be close to a non-factor – but jello is still there – hard to tell how improved it is vs. 5DMKII but it has to be better IMO given faster processor:
A bit underwhelming for some? Sure. But this now becomes the camera of choice for HDSLR videography in my book – this is still one of the largest sensors in the world with incredible color – and now one of the best performing low light sensors in the world as well – it’s important not to lose sight of that fact. The 5D MKII was worthy of being called a "game changer" after all… and it’s hard to fill those shoes.
For still photographers – the higher motor drive FPS are welcome – as well as a much needed and far superior AF system. This AF system is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the 5D MKII when you consider that the MKII had the SAME AF sensor as the original 5D (meaning it’s almost 8 years old!) And one notable key still feature which could be HUGE (finally they added this feature!!!) The EOS 5D Mark III camera features a built-in HDR mode, merging three images at various exposure levels into a single image, in-camera, This would be my camera of choice to travel the world as a still photographer.
So for most of you, there’s likely no need to hide your 5D MKII as being an antiquated camera – it’s still a player.
If anything- this will be a great opportunity to pick up a 5D MKII for a much more affordable price now that its big brother is out.
I will have a hard time recommending the 7D or 60D to anyone from now on (although the 5D MKII will likely not drop "that" much in price.)
For high end users and rental houses – I think the bells and whistles on this camera are worth the upgrade. The 720p out during record alone will justify the upgrade.
I also think this is the ULTIMATE Astro time lapse camera in the world right now – except for maybe one of the new Nikons perhaps (side by side tests need to be made to see which of the 3 bodies does best with Astro Photography for exampple…)

I myself: would go for the C300 given my penchant for video over stills at this point in my career … So if you’ve been waiting for the next Canon HDSLR you may want to go for the MKIII … or perhaps…. wait to see what Canon was referring to when they announced that EOS Concept camera back on November 3rd…. this certainly doesn’t seem to be the camera they were hinting at now does it? But there’s not telling when that camera will be announced or what it will offer… so it’s back to the guessing / waiting game for most of us…
Below you’ll find and oldie but a goody – the first high definition video ever shot with an HDSLR – 3 and a half years ago… my how time flies! And what a wonderful mess the Canon 5D MKII and the video below started back then!!!
Read below the video to see how much the camera and accessories will be sold for – and when…
How much and when?
Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR camera expected end of March 2012. Body-only estimated retail price: $3,499.
EOS 5D Mark III with EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM zoom lens “kit”: $4,299.
Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E7A around end of April 2012: $849.99.
GPS Receiver GP-E2 end of April 2012: $390.
Battery Grip BG-E11 end of April 2012: $490.
Speedlite 600EX-RT and Speedlite Transmitter ST-E3-RT end of March 2012: estimated retail prices of $629.99 and $470.00 respectively.
Digital Lens Optimizer works with 29 current lenses to correct abberration, distortion, etc. It looks up from a database to perform all kinds of digital tweaks to the lens. It even corrects for the effects of the OLPF cover glass. Body is magnesium alloy.
Controls similar to 7D.
GPS optional: GP-E2 provides latitude, longitude, altitude, time. $390.
Battery handrip: $490.
WFT-E7A wireless file transmitter for FTP, WFT. With EOS Utility, provides live view on a computer. The camera becomes its own server.
New 600EX-RT speedlight with built-in wireless transmitter/receiver. Range 98 feet. Up to 5 groups, 15 individual units. $629.99
ST-E3 wireless transmitter. $470.









Who knew that 3.5 years later, Angelina Jolie would copy the pose from your actress in the Reverie opening sequence, to cause a worldwide buzz at the Oscars…
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 1st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Nice one!
v
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Hey Vince, Can’t agree more with your post. Though the idea of having 100,000 ISO is pretty interesting. It feels like the 5dm3 is more of a “fixed for video” 5dm2. About 6 months ago I was dead set on getting this camera, and super excited about it! With the Scarlet, c300, 1DX, it seems like there are more options to get a system that is tailored towards what you do. I think I’m sticking to my Scarlet for video. But hrmm I might replace my 7d with a 5dm3 =)
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Excellent post Vincent,
It is clear that the C range will be where the video action will create fireworks in the future. If the Moire/Aliasing is not fixed completely on this as you mention with your 1DX experience then there is no competition to the F3, C300, FS100 for quality.
The GH2 with the amazing hack is great in good light but in low it cant hold a candle to the canons.
The 5D 3 is a safe predictable product, does more but just enough to continue the line not re-invent it. The SLR C line will do that part.
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Thank you for your thoughts. What’s your take on the Magic Lantern hacks, especially the new one coming out that will give the 5D MKII full uncompressed HD out? If it works well, I’m most likely just sticking with the MKII.
Also, how does the MKIII compare to the D800? I’d love to see your side-by-side review. Thanks again.
D
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 1st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Always afraid of using hacks… never have…. would love to do a side by side w D800 but can’t due to contract w/ Canon
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Mh… I will wait for footage. The D800 movie looked nice. Now I want something from Canon to compare.
But 3499? Mh… It would be a no-brainer if it would be 2999. Well, if not, than I will take a price-reduced 5D Mark II.
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Great review Vincent. I agree with everything you said… but will still probably upgrade my MKII once the price goes down! I just picked up the VAF-5D2 and I’m LOVING the way it deals with aliasing/ moire. It truly is making it a different camera altogether!
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Nice write-up Vincent. Bit disappointing regarding 60fps @ 720p.. I really did think they’d push to 1080p… I was thinking I might grab a cheap 7D for some shoots, but I’ll hang out now. What’s the ETA on MKIII ?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
End of March
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I’m just waiting for something better than USB out. Am I crazy. I’ve checked the “specs” with no real info from Canon. I just want a faster output on the body. That’s it. I like the mkii just fine. No upgrading here.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
me too!
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Yea I must admit, if I were giving advice to serious indie filmmakers, I’d probably tell them to wait for the 4K HDSLR Canon is set to release by the end of the year. http://www.eoshd.com/content/5147/canon-announce-35mm-full-frame-4k-dslr
There’s no doubt this new 5Dmk3 is a great tool for filmmakers – I just can’t help thinking that Canon haven’t really listened to what consumers want. I shoot on a 60D and there’s just not enough reason for me to outlay a heap of extra cash on a 5Dmk3. I’d rather spend it on things that count – like location, actors and lighting.
But hey, that’s just me
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I’ve been waiting for this camera forever now and had plans to buy it right after release….but.. i can help but feel like something bigger and better is laying in wait..decisions. Nice review Mr. Laforet! I have been reading your blog and watching your videos for along time now, keep up the great work!
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Hi Vincent. Great post as always. Only 1 thing would encourage me to buy it: a grainy video noise like the one present in the C300,
, to be honest, I just cannot stand the noise and banding produced by the 5D mark II.
What do you think?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 1st, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Doubt it will be the same as C300 – but can’t say it won’t until I get my hands on it…
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I can’t help my self being slightly disappointed by this release.
But i think we always are because our expectations always fly higher.
This camera is tragic fantastic.
Do you remember lowlight from the 5d2? This is even better. Great camera.
Can’t wait to shoot Berlin in those tipical freezing night of the Capitol.
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As a lowly starving film student, this announcement is REALLY exciting… but not quite exciting enough. After tax this camera is CAD $4300, which is, you know, a year’s tuition.
So, I’m excited about the 5dmkII, but really I’m excited because I’m hoping that the trend continutes of allowing new video features to trickle down to the APSC cameras.
Canon has incredible power in this market to do put very powerful tools into many, many artists’ hands. One of the ways they can do that is by sneaking “pro” features onto consumer-level gear, and then cultivating a user base of artists who will find new ways to use equipment that they can afford to own in completely unexpected ways. I hope that Canon has learned that lesson from the 5dmkII, and won’t be shy to let their best ideas stay forever in the same-price-as-a-year’s-tuition cameras.
All of this to say: I really hope the 7DmkII has manual audio levels.
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I was expecting something better from Canon… I guess I got let down this time. Can you confirm whether the HDMI signal out is still 480p like Mark 2?
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Personally, I’m super excited (and hopeful!) about the future direction of Canon in terms of the minor extra features. Canon finally added file name change support to a camera which isn’t a 1 series, which will hopefully start to move down the line and I love the idea of a generic WFT unit. Plus, things like better bracketing mode and those little features get me excited. As does the AF.
However, I don’t agree that it’s hard to recommend the 7D to people. At least not for stills. Partly because the crop sensor can be an advantage depending on your topic, and be causes the extra 2 FPS are noticeable. Also, it’s about half the price right now which is pretty insane. Maybe it’s just because I’m in love with the 7D and it’s position because it fits me so well, but I do think it still has a place, and I’m super super hopeful to see a Mark II of it. 7D <3.
Otherwise, though, I do completely agree with what you've said! And if the 5D2 does drop in price that's an amazing amazing value!
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I have been using my 5dmk2 for still photography as well as video work, and I have to say, as soon as I saw the specs for mk3, I pre-ordered it in a heartbeat. Here is why:
1. Better AF. You have no idea how many times I have said to myself, only if my 5D had a better AF system. And now that has been answered. It got 1dX’s AF system. I mean, come on, what else do you want?
2. 22megapixel, but brand new sensor like 1dx. I say thank god! I much rather have 22m quality pixels, than 36m lesser quality pixels. I mean the c300 only has 8mega pixel. What does that say?
3. Headphone out?! what?! Manual controls of audio while shooting?! What?! Touch sensitive wheel?! I mean these are features that I have been wishing for on my 5Dmk2 when doing video work.
4. Better moire, aliasing and jello. Yes!! Please! Another thing I have been wishing for on my 5D.
5. new compression algorithm
6. more than 12 mins clips. Yes!!!
I completely agree with Vincent, small changes, but VERY IMPORTANT changes.
I don’t care about D800. I have committed to the Canon system, don’t think I will switch. As Vincent, Shane Hurlbut and many have demonstrated, 5d Mk2 is plenty for real film/video work. I really don’t see what D800 can offer me that I would want.
This camera will not make you a better photographer, but it sure is going to make life much easier for a photographer/filmmaker.
Paying $1400, in relation to the $2500 I paid for my 5dMk2 way back, for all of the new features. Heck yes! The AF alone worth 3/4 of that.
I don’t see the point of waiting for the C DSLR, for myself at least, unless it’s a 5dmk3 shooting 4k with 1080p120fps overcrank, no jello and no moire. I am willing to pay another $1k on top of the 5dmk3 price.
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vincent thanks for sharing your opinion regarding the new canon camera
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Vincent, I randomly got into DSLR shooting when I got a 5DMK2 1 year ago. Even at that time I was very impressed and motivated by Reverie (2 years after you released it). It´s been great following you on your blog over the last year – and I have learned a lot. I think many people (me included) would have loved if you actually did make a 5DMK3 video
Your writeup of the 5DMK3 is much appreciated. It looks like a great camera, but clean HDMI output and 1080p 60fps would have made it a killer.
Cheers from Norway
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Hi, Vincent!
What do you mean by clean HDMI out?
Higher bit depth of video stream or a clean interface?
Thanks in advance!
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They haved missed one more option : a Keypad to use this 5DMARK III as mobile phone !
We really don’t care about the video capability.
If you really want a great video Camera, you just have to buy a real one.
A 5DMARK III will always be messy to use as Video Camera unless you have all the tools for stabilization and handmount… and it will be more expensive than a great video camera for the same results.
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It´s funny to read about the 17 times faster DIGIC 5+ processor and the 60FPS only at 720p at the same time.
But i think it´s due to the right to exist of the C300. Be honest, who wouldn´t spent his money on a better MK3 to save money for other equipment. Sure, there are some things for pros missing in he 5D… but it´s far under the price of a C300.
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Does anyone think it likely that Magic Lantern will correct the clean hdmi out problem?
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Will magic lantern handle the clean hdmi out problem?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
We’ll see – doubtful based on what I have been told w/ regards to how the Canons process the image
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5d3 = 5d2n. Yawn. D800 is much more ground breaking for both video and stills. 3.5 years and the result is 5d3 specs?!
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Great unbiased review Vincent. I was hoping the features might have been slightly better considering the Nikon D800 has full HDMI out, but you can’t have everything I guess
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canon becomes kodak soon, with their marketing strategies and half baked cameras. From now on all they do is protect C300….
how sad, canon.
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@jad108, D800, if you are recording video to card, you can only change aperture prior to recording? I mean what?
I really don’t see anything that can be considered ground breaking, maybe compared it to D700, but in reality, it’s stepping on grounds that were broken long ago by the 5dmk2.
Ok, uncompressed HDMI is very nice, but not ground breaking in my book.
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I’m a little sad that today I didn’t get to watch a Vincent Laforet video with the new 5D.
For some reason it just doesn’t feel like Christmas day without it.
Dave
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still trying to find out if the WFT for my mk2 will work on the mk3… or if the new WFT will work backwards to the mk2.
anyone know?
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I’m a student learning photography and video with a 5dmii camera. Really cool camera. Your video was way better than the nikon 800..and they copied you but with a motorcycle.
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Michael Reply:
March 2nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Yeah right!
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Vincent,
I’ve never written to you before even though I’ve been reading your blog for quite some time now. Needless to say, I’m a big fan and thank you for all the priceless information!
Now here’s my question. I am about to make a big investment on film equipment and I’ve been researching like crazy for all my camera options. Honestly I’m much more inclined towards Canon equipment so I’ve been seduced by the C300 and what it can do. But then they announce the 5D mkIII and promises better imaging processors that will remove or reduce the problems that bug the hell out of me such as moire/aliasing. I’d go for the Scarlet but I am not really equipped to work 4K yet. Now my dilemma is: should I buy the 5D mkIII and wait for the higher end Cinema EOS line to evolve into a much more sophisticated camera that outputs a higher frame rate and at least 10 bit or should I go for the C300 anyways because it is that much better than HDSLRs? The thing is I don’t want to go for something that is much more expensive and offers me just a little more. I know you haven’t tested the 5D mkIII yet and that the C300 is awesome but how fast do you think the Cinema EOS line is going to evolve? Because I’d be pretty pissed off if I buy the C300 just to find out that a much better option is coming before I even finish off paying for the one I just bought. And this is coming from a guy that is willing to invest in the best equipment out there but just doesn’t have all the money in the world to do so two times in a row…
I’d just love your insight, I’d appreciate it very much! Thanks again…
Jan Sicilia
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for whoever says “Yawn” there are 10 other people getting on the preorder list… amazon even put up a notice saying quantity is limited here http://amzn.to/Canon5DMkIII
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Any comment on the 5D III vs. 1Dx?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
For video – MKIII seems to have the upper hand. For stills: 1Dx
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@Jan Sicilia,
My take would be spend less on the camera and more on lenses etc. . If the occasional gig comes up where someone is willing to pay for a C300 then rent it. You’ll be able to sell a 5D III easily if it doesn’t work out. It also will make a good B cam for the C300.
I really like the C300 but $16K is a lot of dough for most. I think most potential Scarlet buyer would find the C300 friendlier on set and in post and cheaper ultimately. (I own an EPIC so I think I get to say that). You have to be sold on 4K to get a Scarlet. If you’ve got a real budget for a bit bigger movie you’d probably go with EPIC. Same if you were a hard working music video shooter.
I’ve handled the C300 and the ergonomics are very nice. I personally wouldn’t be putting a lot of rig on it. It seems like it’s made to shoot right out of the box.
But you can make KILLER stuff with lesser cameras. To me, start there and let the marketplace force you into a more expensive camera.
One exception to that idea. If you’re doing a low budget movie then buy the C300 and sell it when you’re done. Keep it for a few months if needed, but don’t get caught holding the bag when the new one is announced. I can barely give away my RED ONE right now – yet the images are still astounding. The market is very “camera du jour”.
I’m still pretty curious about that D800 uncompressed 1080P out.
Also, the FS-100 might be the most underrated video camera out there right now. I shot one for two weeks. All around workhorse and great in low light. And it HAS 1080 60P.
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Too much focus on all these different cameras, with all the A, B, C features!
If you don’t have a well-developed concept you have nothing. The type of camera & gear you use with the fancy features will not save your ass.
Sorry Vincent for the language on your Blog! It pains me to see everyone so hung up on gear!
Use what you have; you would be surprised in what you can achieve! Don’t get me wrong I like shiny new things to! Get out there and show us what you got!
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
I’ve been developing my first film for the past few months – so I know where you are coming from. That being said, not everyone is a screenwriter / director /filmmaker. Many are on the technical end of filmmaking- and that’s necessary…. and some just like their toys. This site is for everyone. When I make my film public – expect people to complain that there arent’ enough “camera reviews…”
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Vince, i’ll bet real money the headphone jack is thanks to Nikon’s announcements on D4 and D800.
I suspect the internal politics at Canon over Video V DSLR sections have still dictated the 5DIII is still a little under featured.
Would you know if the 5DIII and 1DX pixel bin like the GH2 instead of line-skip and what method the Nikons use.
If Nikon still line-skin, then to me it’s a no-brainer the 5DIII & 1DX will be video winners.
As an aside, the headphone out is most welcome, I can actually hear the interviews etc, huge deal to me! I don’t need cinema quality sound, just good sound.
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Glad to hear that I don’t need one!
The addition of 1080 60fps would’ve probably had me reaching (possibly in slow motion) for my credit card.
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THAT A HUGE LENS!
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Vincent! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You have worked for Canon and as I understand, you are on contract with them. It’s really a pleasant surprise to read some of your comments on 5dmIII which are refreshingly honest and candid. I only wish you could have been in a position to give your comparative views on D800. The reason for this ‘wish” (I have read it somewhere else from some others as well) is that you are a practicing film maker, a professional and right in the field and not a desk-ridden with a desk top commentator ready to give hands on reviews which can simply be at best an annotated copy of the whole press release or at worst a re-paraphrased extract from the company’s press release. What wrong have the curious readers done to them to deserve that?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 3rd, 2012 at 11:03 am
Very nicely pit Tas – and thank you!
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hi vincent ,
questions that are bothering are … what’s the colour space is it 422. ?…..can we record on external recorder, with 422 ?…. and is there line skipping when it captures video ?….
thanks
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
HAven’t seen the camera yet or read detailed specs to answer unfortunately
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@Dave Dugdale,
Felt exactly the same – really wanted to see a lavish video / short from Vince showcasing off the new capabilities! Still totally understandable given the post and option to take the C300…
So… that 4K EOS Cinema DSLR… Hopefully not too long till we see a Laforet Visuals short from it right Vince ??
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 am
Nah – I’m skipping this 5D MKIII camera most likely. i haven’t even see the body yet! As far as future cameras – if and when they come out I think it’s time for others to give it a try…. I’m focusing on my first feature these days – very excited!
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VIncent, thanks for posting. Not sure if you’ve read, but agree wholeheartedly with Stu Maschwitz who tweeted
‘All three of the Canon 5D Mark III videos demonstrate two undeniable facts: • Dramatic reduction in moiré • Canon needs @vincentlaforet
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Ha! I’ve had plenty of opportunities to do promo videos for them (the last 3 out of 4 cameras…) so It’s time to let others have a go at it. But I do appreciate it very much!
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@Huey Le, It’s 720p
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Vincent, I don’t know if you noticed but the images from the 5D Mark III is 5760 pixels wide. That is, it is exactly 3×1920 pixels wide.
I don’t think that this is a mistake and I suspect that this may allow Canon to be smarter when generating video data from the sensor and may be why they are able to attack moire and other artifacts more effectively.
I’d love it if someone could do a more technical analysis of what their sensor size choice means for video.
This small detail may more than compensate for the lack of clean HDMI out.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Smart man
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DId anyone else notice in the Canon Mk III video at the end they list some of the scene shot with the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS II USM? I’m ASSUMING that’s a misprint then??? The new 24-70 is NOT stabilized, correct?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
It is NOT stabilized – correct
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@Joel Kaye,
I agree with you about the lenses, my first investment was precisely that. I bought a 7D with 3 very fast Canon primes and a zoom. In most cases, that has been more than enough but as I get more experienced and I get bigger clients, buying a higher end camera seems like the next step for me. The thing about my situation is that rental is not so readily available to me because I live and work in Guatemala City and I often find myself making a better living when I use my own equipment. I’ve had access to a RED ONE and a Sony F3 but I often end up paying a lot more than I’m willing to. The way I feel is that if I’m gonna be paying those prices, I might as well buy the camera. It turns out being the same to me, I just get to keep the goods afterwards.
Well, for now I think I’ll hold out just a little longer and see what the 5D mkIII is capable of. After all, before the C300 came out, what I was really looking forward to was the new 5D so I guess it’s all good. Thanks for the reply man, I appreciate it!
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Here is some footage of the 5d Mark III
http://vimeo.com/37804617
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If the camera uses 3×3 pixel binning to get a 1920X1080 bayer matrix, and then debayers from that, as suggested above, then the final image will be very soft. Debayering consumes about 30%-40% of image resolution in each axis. That’s why most single chip 1080p camcorders scale down from 3-4 megapixels. 1920X1080 binned and debayered would be a lot closer to 720p than 1080p.
The 5DII had full resolution on the horizontal axis and a 70% resolution reduction on the vertical axis, also a lot of aliasing on that axis.
Looks like the 5DIII will solve the aliasing issues if it pixel bins rather than line skips–at the expense of a HUGE resolution loss. Any idea if this is true? The resolution numbers (3x1920x3x1080) are too convenient to ignore. But 720p video isn’t enough–not compared with the C300′s super crisp video.
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@Tony, Almost word for word I’m in the same boat. Got a Scarlet paired with a 7D but am thinking about the mkIII… but I’m just not sure how big the quality jump is. Sorry for my lack of knowledge but is it true this is pretty much the same sensor as the c300?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Definitely not the same sensor or technology behind it
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Hi Vincent,
Thanks for your post but I am concerned about the fact that you are a canon man even as you said yourself, having a contract with them, how does this qualify your products’s evaluation as objective.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I try to be as objective as possible – read the about this blog section. I never lie… Or exaggerate!
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@Vincent Laforet,
LOL. You can always do a BTS and show what gear you used to please the toys folks.
Hope it’s another sci-fi inspired film….loved Mobius
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Hi Vincent,
Happy to hear that you’re working on your first feature film. I’m assuming that you can’t say too much about it for the time being. However, can you at least tell us what genre it falls under?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 5th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
It’s a thriller…
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@Alex, I hope so, but I still wonder if the processor can handle it without overheating prematurely or crashing. Uncompressed 1080p 4:2:2 out, even if it is 8-bit, would provide a lot more latitude for correction in post.
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Can’t decide which one to buy D800 or Mark3 , Nikon D800 offers an uncompressed HDMI output and that is what got me thinking…
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Vincent!
Does the 1Dx have a clean HDMI out?
Also on the 5d Mark III, Even though it has an HDR mode, can one still take bracketed images without merging them?
For my purposes I need a camera that can take outstanding stills as well as professional grade video. The h.264 compression is killing me.
Would you recommend switching to Nikon d800?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 5th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Until I test the D800 I don’t know how good the clean HDMI out is… And no the 1Dx does NOT have clean HDMI out – nor does any HDSLR camera from Canon. You can do both versions of HDR w/ the 5D MKIII.
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Dawgg,
If you have 3×3 pixels you don’t do the normal debayering. You might not even need debayering. You take each component by separate (RGB) and bin it in one pixel. You’d get 3 Red samples, 6 Green samples and 3 Blue ones. Let’s remember that the C300 simply has 2×2 pixels and do this, and has zero moiré. I’m assuming the 5Dmk3 moiré is an artifact of the low pass filter, and it’s effect on pixels at the block boundary (i.e. between 3×3 blocks).
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Sad about the 60p.. Here’s something i did on the mkII. Pass it around if you enjoy it please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJamYRLdHsU
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@Fabien,
name one real video camera with a sensor this size ?
go on.. i dare ya ?
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Hi Vincent,
Hope all are well! Thanks for the great post! The MKIII seems like a healthy candidate for both stills and video. I love to shoot stills and I am also falling in love in cinematography. At the moment, I am on the process of getting either the PhaseOne 645df IQ140 (for still) or the RED Scalet-X (for video). Do you think I should consider waiting until Canon comes out something in between the 1Dx and the C300? Thanks.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 5th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I can’t comment on any possible future cameras unfortunately…. Quite a choice you have to make!
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Hi Vincent,
Do you know if the new Canon Digital Lens Optimizer (DLO) function
in Digital Photo Professional version 3.11.4 (DPP 3.11.4) will be
backward compatible with any Canon cameras or files beside the
5d Mark III?
Thanks.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Theoretically it should – but I don’t know for a fact no. Perhaps someone else can chime in …
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@baldusi, Makes sense! Hopefully you’re right; although I wonder how the 5DIII’s sensor can read out fast enough for either method…
But you wouldn’t get three red, six green, and three blue samples–the division doesn’t work. On the c300 you get one red, two green, and one blue. On a 5D III cropped to 16:9 you get 2.25 red, 2.25 blue, and 4.5 green. The bayer sensor isn’t divided 1:1:1 between green, red, and blue (which would give you 3:3:3). So either you’re binning by a factor of four and getting a full res 1440*810 image or something else is up.
That’s my current guess–the 5DIII works like the c300–to deliver a 1440*810 image. No wonder all the samples are incredibly fuzzy (similar to, if not less sharp than, the 5DII).
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Sorry Vincent, but I am a bit disappointed just like many others that you are not on the case for MK3.
Mobius was the best of all the promos produced for c300 and when I heard about 5d3 I was so excited to come back to your blog looking for that tingling feeling you gave me with REVERIE, years ago. You were the reason I got in to cinematography, instead of acting, to dream of achieving something so visually stunning one day…
I come back for that tingling feeling and nothing, no tingling, all I hear is HDMI this – Compression that, I know all of that, sounds great, but I believe what I see, not what I read.
Couldn’t you now just take a chopper, I am sure canon will pay for it, and make continuation of the story, just add some helicopter shots and we will all be happy to have that canon-love feeling again, otherwise I even feel like saving for another year or 2 and buy c300, mk3 is nice, but is it really the answer to my need of love for the camera? I love c300, when in fact to my budget and place in life I should love mk3… Ow Vincent what have you done?!
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 7th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
I would have done it had they asked… but I knew the writing was on the wall when I chose to do the C300 and doubted they would ask me to do the MKIII as well… I appreciate your comments. It looks like it was Canon EUROPE’s turn to do the promos this time…
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@Dieter S.,
right… i’ll keep the MK2 for a few years more…
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Although the Nikon d7000 has autofocus when shooting video, it appears that both the high end Nikons and the 5D Mk III and 1DX also omit this option. When shooting a wedding, the absence of video autofocus is a major limitation. Canon USA offer no explanation and admit they have no idea why Canon engineers omitted video autofocus.
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Hi,
Thank you four your nice writing on Canon 5D MKIII – my thoughts
Thanks.
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Well, your take is fascinating as usual, Vincent. However, with all due respect, I think maybe you’re off the mark on this one (ha, ha, off the mark iii, I suppose!).
Canon has released the last stills camera anyone will ever need for any purpose, prosumer or above. One of a few reasons to pick the 1dx over the mark iii is the high frame rate, but really, who but the most demanding sports photographer needs 11 fps?
Reading all the commentary here and elsewhere reminds me of the story of the blind men inspecting the elephant. How many posts have I read where someone has said, “Oh, it doesn’t have feature A. Dealbreaker!” Or, “Oh, it doesn’t have feature B. Dealbreaker!” (Someone on this board even said he’d bite at $2999 but not $3499. Really? $500 bucks is the tipping point? Good to know; I’ll have to tell my accountant.) It doesn’t have this, it doesn’t have that; it’s evolutionary, not revolutionary; disappointed… where have I heard all that before? Oh, yeah, the iPhone 4s, and we all know what a sales loser that was.
We live in an age of absolutes, I suppose, and Canon has proved the adage “No good deed goes unpunished on the internet.” People examining the whole elephant, however, are jumping on this thing like nothing before. Anecdotally, pre-orders just at B&H number over 10,000. So, while the internet pundits pound the perceived flaws, omissions and disappointments of the mark iii, content creators are snapping them up. Now, where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah, the mark ii.
And the most petulant among us cry, “It doesn’t have interchangeable focussing screens / 33 MP / 7 FPS / 3,000 layer RGB psychically holographic metering / (insert beloved feature here)? F that! Worthless piece of junk! Nikon here I come! I’m rebuying everything!” A cri de coeur that warms the hearts of marketing vice presidents everywhere, I’m sure, even as the older among us remember the annoying kid in high-school photo class who made heart-breaking photos with her parent’s Brownie.
The mark ii was an important camera for many reasons, but for one in particular; it urged Canon to jump into the high-end video market with both feet. They now have a vertically integrated ecosystem of cameras and lenses that can cover 90-95% of video/film production. (Maybe 100% if we recall that the #1 box office attraction in the US last week was shot largely on 5D mark iis. So much for the perceived need for 4K. Story trumps form, blah, blah, blah.) People can own L glass and have that investment migrate up and down the system, and rent the Cine lenses as needed. The mark iii and 1dx are perfectly affordable B cameras for high-end, and A cameras for everybody else. Oh, did I mention they’re kick-ass stills cameras? And with the advent of the 4K Cine EOS and a seemingly probable 4K version of the C300 (I mean, you’ve gone this far, why stop?), there is no point in this system that bars entry and is not functionally interchangeable with any other. Nikon has nothing like this. Nobody has anything even remotely like this.
This is long and probably pretty boring, but I suppose my point is this: when looked at dynamically, what Canon is doing is genius. They can’t be everything to everyone, but they’re doing an astonishing job of spreading the stills/motion goodness around to as broad a market as possible, and they are serious about it. It’s a big elephant. It’s only if you have your hand on just the elephant’s tail that things tend to smell a little shitty.
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the 5dm2 has been working, commercials, tv news, corporate, from day one. money making pay the mortgage work. single system sound. for broadcast work, it has been a total life changer. just the repair on my old broadcast cameras was more than the 5d2 body costs. now, more than 3 years later, you bet your sweet booty i am getting the 3. intraframe compression, better monitor by 10% and wider, HEADPHONE JACK! to confirm wireless made it to the innards! variable within clip audio adjust! dual card recording??? improved weather proofing…yes, the little things mean a lot. seperate from all the creative, film project, avant garde stuff, my 2 has done bill paying grunt work without ever, ever losing any video or audio, and less wear and tear on my body, even fully rigged up. i would buy the new 3 just to return the favor to canon for giving us this tool. for broadcast tv, it is plenty sharp, plenty workable, and now apparently even better. just happy it is FINALLY going to arrive!
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Hello Mr. Laforet,
As a fan of “MOBIUS”, I’m looking forward to you new feature film! I have a quick question if you would be so kind. In an earlier post you mentioned the 5D3 seems to be superior for video than the 1-DX. From what I can find, the 1-DX seems to have the same exact specs – including superior ISO to the 5D3. Were you referring to the new headphone jack in the 5D3 to make this statement, or did I miss something important reading the spec sheet? Thank you in advance,
David
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 10th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I saw a lot of aliasing / moire with the 1DX body – which I am not seeing with the 5D MKIII samples – that seems to be the main and significant difference.
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Vincent, love your work… Thanks for always inspiring. I’ve been searching for hours for the answer to this question:
Which will provide better video (1080 @24/30), the 1dx or the 5dmkiii? Which is better video in low light too? Or are they the same basically.
My biggest qualm with the dslrs is the jittery footage when walking around (yes there are stabilization options but those don’t always fit in my bag.
Thanks! Keep it up.
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Vincent, love your work… Thanks for always inspiring. I’ve been searching for hours for the answer to this question:
Which will provide better video (1080 @24/30), the 1dx or the 5dmkiii? Which is better video in low light too? Or are they the same basically.
My biggest qualm with the dslrs is the jittery footage when walking around (yes there are stabilization options but those don’t always fit in my bag.
Thanks! Keep it up
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Can’t say for sure because the final production models aren’t available yet to do side by side tests. I would GUESS that 1Dx would do slightly better in low light. But the 1D MKIII will give you the best image. Right now I would go to the 5D MKIII in general over the 1Dx as I have seen the same old moire / aliasing w/ that camera.
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Thanks for the great post.
> No clean HDMI out… why…why…why?
Yeah, this is the most annoying issue I have with the 5D3. I guess the reason is the portfolio management of Canon. They certainly can not launch a camera at roughly 1/3 of the C300 price but with similar technical specs. Everyone would go for the 5D3 and simply use the external recorder of their choice. The C300 would be just for a very very small niche in the semi-pro film/video segment, maybe even dead.
(Disclaimer: We are working with 1D4′s right now, and we have been considering the C300 as alternative. Clearly, if the 5D3 would support clean HDMI-out, we’d not even bother looking at the C300.)
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@Da, not true… aperture is live durning recording… I saw the camera at PPI your thinking of the D7000…. And from the test Ive seen the D4 will remain the lowlight king with a clean HDMI to boot
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With the announcement of the D16 Digital Bolex… I have to re-evaluate everything.
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I am a bit disappointed with canon, seriously, a bit higher price and few misses. I wish it had build in gps, no, you get that thing that you connect to USB, this camera does not have flash, so using both flash and gps is out of a question. What if you want to use gps and maybe that wireless unit, first of all it looks horrible, second there is only one usb port on the camera, so how to connect both? How about using old usb 2.0 technology? USB is less than 500mbit speed, while they included 1000mbit port on that wireless transmitter, so how can you transfer gigabit data over usb 2.0 interface? whats the point of even using gigabit on that device? and shape of that wireless transmitter, ugh, so ugly, like a brick, at least they should make it look like a part of a body or that grip that they used in the past. but then it would not be universal in between cameras. I don’t know, just seems like canon did so many shortcuts and they did not hold to that name that d5 mark ii used to hold.
With release of that nikon high mp camera urgh…
Ehh, will still love my Mark II…
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EDIT: the above post contains a wrong Link. This post has the corrected 3 Links. Please read below.
Thank you for your repsonse, Mr. Laforet..I appreciate it. There are 3 new videos just released that were shot on the EOS 1-DX. It seems maybe the problems you encountered on the pre-production model have been fixed. As your eye is more trained then mine, I look for ward to your reaction. Here are the videos and thank you again:
http://tinyurl.com/7y52eyk
http://tinyurl.com/6om52tq
http://tinyurl.com/74vyj2z
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
I need to check out a production camera before making any conclusions as this is a pretty important issue to resolve for many! – more TK soon – v
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In some of the docs for the 5d m3 it mentions that the lineskipping is no longer done so as to elimnate or greatly reduce moire. My concern, if lineskipping is no longer done that means during video recording a smaller section of the sensor is being used. How does this affect the beautiful depth of field we enjoy from the full size sensor. I realize we have a Full Frame sensor in both the M2 and M3, but if the M3 is only using the center or some section, it would be a reduced size optically. Your thoughts? Or is it still line skipping to take advantage of the size?
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@Vincent Laforet,
Brand loyalty !!! Much appreciated….
But, me and many others actually own a Nikon and love to create stuffs like you did with a Canon. A few words from a wise man like you would have helped a lot.
I wish you could do a tutorial for a Nikon user who has absolute no control over video (how to turn this limitation into a strength)… I love low light shots & neo-noir but feeling helpless without manual control & primes
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Same size sensor – full frame so not sure I understand your question to be honest.
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[...] Arguably one of the most important pieces of film news over the past few weeks was the announcement of the Canon 5DMkIII. All the Canon DSLR blogging regulars were quick to post their thoughts online. Perhaps my favorite post comes from Digital Photography School (includes detailed feature list and verbatim Canon press release) blogger Darren Rowse, although this story wouldn’t be complete without also linking to Vincent LaForet, the man of the original 5DMkII fame three years ago (the creator of “Reverie“ and the more recent C300 shot “Mobius“), with his thoughts on the camera. [...]
Hi Vincent, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the MKIII. I am specialized in architecture photography and used the 5D until not so long ago, full frame is essential for my work with TS lenses. Its not so long since I moved to the MKII. I understand for your opinions that for a guy like me that allways work with a tripod, in the lowest ISO possible (practically always 100) and the best F (usually 13) No video work but just exercises, there´s no reason I see to jump form MKII to MKIII. But Wanted to listen to your opinion. Regards
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
March 30th, 2012 at 11:31 am
The multiple exposure is a nice feature for architecture…. Might be worth it alone. Although doing it in photoshop or other apps the old way is likely best
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Hi Vincent,
I’m planning to upgrade from my EOS400D. I do mostly landscape, architecture, and some events/concerts.
Is the 2 grand difference between the Mk3 and Mk2 5D worth it, for the kind of photography that I do?
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
For concerts and anything high ISO yes. I’d make the upgrade for sure if you can afford it.
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[...] Vincent Laforet has a hard time recommending the 7D or 60D to anyone from now on: For high end users and rental houses – I think the bells and whistles on this camera are worth the upgrade. The 720p out during record alone will justify the upgrade. I also think this is the ULTIMATE astro time lapse camera in the world right now – except for maybe one of the new Nikons perhaps. I myself would go for the C300 given my penchant for video over stills at this point in my career. [...]
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Thank you for this great information, you write very well which I like very much.
I really impressed by your post.
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The C300 is in effect the Canon 5D MKII all grown up – but a pure video camera (not a still camera.)
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@Brian MacDougall, Enjoyed this
well written.
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I picked up the C300 in January upgrading from the Panasonic AF100 and recently upgraded my 5DMII to the 5DMIII. No regrets as the two have their specialties yet share lenses, CF cards, etc., working well together. For me, Canon has provided a powerful and reliable solution. I don’t have to worry about the logistics lending more of my brains processing to creation.
I’ve found the 5DMIII’s 61pt AF, 6fps, silent operation, HDR mode, expanded bracketing, faster processor and improved video well worth the upgrade. Perhaps this is more subjective but I see a richer color space over the 5DMII. All good stuff.
Thank you for inspiring Vincent!
Happy shooting
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It’s actually a nice and helpful piece of info. I’m happy that you shared this helpful info with us. Please keep us informed like this. Thank you for sharing.
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hello Vincent, I picked up a 5D mkII in July but had not shot any commercials yet with it till last month. We shot a completely virtual set commercial, all on greenscreen. the VFX supervisor and me where a little worried at first at the compression, but it turned out that the ALL-I codec worked beautifully in after effects to pull the key. We edited the native H.264s in Premiere Pro. A LOT of how we treated the camera and files had to do with stuff I read on your blog so I have to thank you for it. I am very proud of the tv spot we made. Here is the link, hope you can see it, it’s only 20 seconds long! https://vimeo.com/49270513
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:00 am
Nicely done! I’m particularly impressed at how clean the keys are on the hair!
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@Ruben Fernandez, Mark III I mean
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@Vincent Laforet, Thanks Vincent! you made my day with your comment!
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Revire is an inspiring peice Vincent..I own the mark 3 and am amazed at how much better the image look under high ISO..beautiful..love the still function..very fast and responsive. Imagine what the 5D mk3 footage will look like with the new canon firmware coming soon..uncompressed HDMI out! Exciting times for canon
Thanks for the Review Vincent..good luck in all you do..!
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[...] While many were awaiting the announcement of the Canon 5DmkIII, Nikon jumped on board early in 2012 as they announced their new D4, followed by the D800 and D800E one month later. It wasn’t until March that the world was introduced to the 5DmkIII (which also coincided with the start of this blog!). Was it ever going to be possible to live up to all the hype and expectation? [...]
Thanks for the write up Vincent! The improved af and higher iso capabilities of the mk3 make it well worth the upgrade in my opinion!
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Great write-up, thanks for this! I have been using a 60D for the past few months and I must admit that I scoffed at a friend when he bought the 5D3, at least until I saw the difference in low light image quality. I had been thinking about going to a FF camera, but wasn’t too serious, until I stumbled upon a boxing day sale at a local camera shop and saw the best price on the entire Canon range.
Well after a very few hums and haws, I bought the 5D mk iii. This allowed me to get it home and start doing low light, high ISO comparison shots with the 60D, through the same lenses, which included primarily an L 24-70 f2.8. The difference was obvious. No contest!.
I will keep the 60D though, as I shoot birds and sports cars, so the longer lenses on the crop frame simply means I have less cropping to do on 1000+ images. Also, the battery on the 60D has lasted for over 1700 shots! Amazing… The image quality of the 5D3 is superior to the 60D in every situation. The color, contrast and sharpness are all excellent.
My point is that I was once of the mind that the difference between the two were not sufficient to support the cost, but for me, at least, I now see that this is not the case. You may not agree, but another way to look at it is you own a sports car for a long time and love it, then one day, for a few bucks more, you get double the horsepower and better handling. Your car suddenly is better at everything it does. This is the case with these 2 cameras.
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@Vincent Laforet, it’s nice
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hi,please help 6d or 5d mk3 for video?????
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
February 18th, 2013 at 7:02 am
5D MKIII for video. 6D for stills only.
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Agree with Steve Fuller. The AF, metering and especially high ISO capabilities of the mark iii over the mark ii (and to some extent even over my 1d iv) make me want to throw my mark ii in the bin now. Time to start saving up – again! Great write up.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
February 18th, 2013 at 6:47 am
Sad but true… but I keep my MKIIs for Time Lapse…
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