Adobe Post Workflow on Mobius
Over the next few weeks you’ll see a few posts on the gear we used on Mobius, as well as the pre-production we did on it as well as the post workflow. First – here is a video on rotoscoping that you might find of interest.
A few months ago we did a piece on dynamic linking between Adobe Premiere and AfterEffects. In the above video, Jon Carr, gives a more practical breakdown of how these features were used on our latest film, "Mobius" – notably in terms of rotoscoping. During a particular scene in the film our protagonist (David Lyons) is taking pictures of a Cartel execution from an outcropping of rocks. Unfortunately, the rocks that we used on location were covered with graffiti (the location is usually a well trafficked off-roading recreation area).
However, in the film, this location needed to sell as the middle of nowhere, not to mention Mexico – so the graffiti had to go. The above video walks you through the workflow of this: linking the footage out of Premiere and into After Effects, from there exporting a still from the footage into Photoshop, and then using the photoshopped version of that still in After Effects with the rotoscoping and tracking tools. The end effect is unnoticeable – but that’s the goal – as it sells the scene as being in a remote location. This workflow will work for you no matter what effects you are trying to achieve, and shows just how seamless the Adobe workflow is across the multiple application in their Production Premium suite.
Really great article, this is extremely useful, thanks for the post.
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Thank’s for share the workflow
Regards
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excellent tut, mucho gracias !!
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Merci beaucoup Vincent
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Thanks Vincent, i appreciate you sharing knowledge w us
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Thanks! Great tutorial!
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Nice work, well described.
It’s good to see how this is edited out in post. It might save some time clearing clutter on my next shoot!
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Would love to check John out on ask a pro. Do you have a link??
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Great post and insight. I was curious as to what application you used for color correction. Many thanks!
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
January 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Lustre w Andrew Francis at eFilm. I’m personally looking into Black Magic Resolve – but haven’t found the time to learn it yet.
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where can I find that post on adobe website that Joh talks about in the beginning of this clip?
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Ah.. great tutorial. thanks a lot, really helpful
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Nice!
Hey Vincent Laforet…my friend!
Which video format is for DSLR Video finishing
I mean:DNXHD or Avi v210,Cineform
Which one..
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
January 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Depends on your output and software! too general to answer – alhough ProRes 422, 422HQ and 444 are industry standard – or DPX for grading
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Here is the Ask A Pro Webinar link to the Adobe session for those interested in the entire overview.
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/12/jon-carr-on-using-production-premium-cs5-5-on-vincent-laflorets-mobius.html
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Thanks for your answer
tnx again.
Actually my DSLR skill is not good.That is why i asked u very generaly question.
I do use windows and i use Canon 5D mark 2.
I want to feel very good quality but it doesnt give me that thing.
When i import my footage to Premiere cs5.5 i shows bad.I think it is Native 8bit H264.That is why i don’t use dynamic link and i do not use color correction etc..
I just edit and render by DNXHD uncompressed 10bit,then import my footage to After effect..then render again..U know i feel it is better than directly use dynamic link.
I have Rarevision and MPEG Streamclip..i can convert but premiere doesn’t play pro ress and DNXHD u know
When i finished my job,DNXHD to H264 and upload my video on youtube
And i don’t understand about last finishing format
If i have to submit my video to TV
do i have to render tv format directly from editing system or i have to render finishing format first then convert?
My workflow is like this..I know it sounds bad..
You can help me and u r the one
Give me the very expensive advice please
If your answer is long,this is my emaill:Tomblanks3000@yahoo.com
I’ll be waiting for ya
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Great stuff Vincent. I’ve not thought of using photoshop with after effects in this way so nice little tip.
I love after effects and use it a lot but for film I’ve been more used to Final Cut which makes sense for me to color grade in Color. Resolve does look amazing though so something I’d also like to try out one day.
I was curious if Adobe is your regular workflow or if you chose it specifically for this job and if you use Final Cut, how do you compare Premier to it?
I’ve been having a lot of debate over workflow recently, particularly with Apple looking to discontinue the professional approach to Final Cut. If they do decide to leave as this childs version they’ve released I wonder where the future of editing lies? Premiere?
Most of my film work from now on will be RED footage as well so something else to consider for my workflow!
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
January 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I’ve switched 100% to a Premiere/AE Workflow since Final Cut X camer out… It make my RED workflow seamless.
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[...] der durch seine Kurzfilme zum Release der Canon 5D MKII, 1D und 7D weltweit bekannt geworden ist, hat auf seinem Blog einen Post über den Postproduction Workflow für sein Projekt Mobius geschriebe…, in dem es um die Verknüpfung von Adobe After Effects und Premiere geht. Außerdem gibt es ein [...]
@Vincent Laforet, Very interesting, thanks! You mentioned you are looking in to Resolve yourself but haven’t found the time so are you just grading inside AE for now? Magic Bullet Colorista by any chance?
Thanks,
Steve
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
January 30th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Yes – Magic Bullet has been our go to software for months now. Time to learn Resolve on my end – just can’t seem to find the time… yet!
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@Vincent Laforet, Always the problem! I’ve just noticed there’s been an update to FCPX which has added some of the missing features but I’m not sure if it’s enough to take me in to it.
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Vincent Laforet Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I’m not sure fcp is a good long term play. I do sincerely hope I am wrong
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