For the video, click on the image above or here: REVERIE.
The video is now back online on this blog. Many thanks for your patience and support.
UPDATE: See The Behind the Scenes video here on SmugMug
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wow. that makes me excited about video.. nice work Vincent. It is great to see this camera in you hands as it has obviously sparked a fire of creativity in you.. we creative professionals need that and i hope this camera does the same for me
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Comment by Eric Cotter 09.22.08 @ 11:44 pmStunning. Vincent, this entire thread is an inspiration. Your excitement is contagious. Thanks for paying it forward, it’s working…
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Comment by Paul Pangrazzi 09.22.08 @ 11:46 pmThank you, I’ve been waiting for this all weekend!
It’s nice to feel welcome as a Canon shooter again (after a few months of Nikon induced angst).
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Comment by JVL 09.22.08 @ 11:46 pmWow, very nice video; from a SLR none the less. I am concerned about the auto focus during video. Canon’s site implies there is, but your video seems to show otherwise. What are your thoughts??
Autofocus
* Quick Mode
* Live Mode
* Live View Face Detection Mode
* Manual
Thanks for taking the time, this is an awesome showcasing of the 5D!
Richard Getz
RichGetz.com
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Comment by Richard Getz 09.22.08 @ 11:48 pmWOW! I’m glad I pre-ordered mine today before this video came out…
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Comment by Tanner Johnson 09.22.08 @ 11:50 pmthat was awesome.
especially for the conditions you stated.
72 hours with a piece of equipment, no prior “training”, no manual, first time doing a video shoot, and a limited budget.
simply
amazing.
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Comment by Armen 09.22.08 @ 11:50 pmI’m drooling just looking at that screen capture from the helicopter… Waiting for the video to load!!!!
=Matt=
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Comment by Matthew Saville 09.22.08 @ 11:50 pm@Scott:
SmugMug is ready and willing to host 720p and 1080p versions of the video. As I understand it, Canon wanted to do it, though, so we’re waiting in the wings.
I have no idea why Canon wouldn’t show off the full 1080p glory of this fabulous footage on their new game-changer, though. Seems strange… ?
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Comment by Do MacAskill 09.22.08 @ 11:51 pm[...] Vince Laforet’s 5D Mk II Video Out Here’s a quickie - From an earlier post, here’s the Canon 5D Mark II video is now out. Check it out here at his site: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ [...]
Pingback by Vince Laforet’s 5D Mk II Video Out « mikelao photography 09.22.08 @ 11:51 pmIt’s beautiful. And quite an accomplishment for 72 hours. Great work.
For those wondering why it looks like video, there are two reasons.
The first, as previously discussed, is that it’s at 30 fps.
But even more responsible for the video-like appearance is the shutter interval. Film usually has a shutter speed of 1/2 the frame duration, i.e. 1/48 second for 24 fps. Video, unencumbered by a physical shutter, often has a shutter speed equal to the frame rate. The most video-like sections of this short are those with 1/30th shutter speeds.
This issue plagues many 24 fps HD examples as well. Even at 24p, a “360 degree shutter” results in too-smooth motion with a video-like appearance.
I’m not trying to critique the piece at all, just hoping to preemptively answer the question of why some 30p samples look so filmic and some don’t.
In other words, 24p is only half of the filmmaker’s solution—the other hald being manila control, teh ability to enforce a 180 degree (1/48 at 24p) shutter speed.
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Comment by Stu 09.22.08 @ 11:52 pmThat was incredible! I could never belive an SLR could provide video of THAT quality! Props to you!
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Comment by Max Edin 09.22.08 @ 11:52 pmWow….goosebumps, Vincent. Amazing! I can’t wait to get my hands on this camera!
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Comment by Jason 09.22.08 @ 11:53 pmDamn - I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these to play with. I haven’t had an overwhelming interest in video in the past - but a large part of that was not wanting to invest in another set of hardware. Now, though? I can’t wait!
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Comment by Daniel Garcia 09.22.08 @ 11:54 pmAbsolutely astounding work, Vincent, thanks for sharing this and getting this whole thing going. I suspect this is going to be a big deal..
-c
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Comment by ChrissyOne 09.22.08 @ 11:55 pmAmazing work!! Great job Vincent and what a camera. I am so jacked about what I just saw I cant believe it..You were right on when you said everything will change.. Thanks for extra effort in putting this together..
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Comment by Patrick 09.22.08 @ 11:55 pmVincent - a question:
During the helicopter scene when you panned down on one of the tall buildings, it looked like the camera irised down…was that something that was automatic? Done manually? In post? Or is there an exposure setting lock in video mode?
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Comment by Jason 09.22.08 @ 11:57 pmAwesome work, Vincent - nothing short of breath-taking for such a minimum amount of time. Thank you for taking the time to put together such a fine example of the potential of the 5DII.
Your efforts are appreciated.
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Comment by Brandon 09.22.08 @ 11:57 pmStu - could you, in theory, replicate the “180 degree shutter” by shooting at say 48 or 60fps, and then cutting out every other frame? (I know you can’t with this camera, i’m just asking hypothetically)
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Comment by Daniel Garcia 09.22.08 @ 11:57 pmGreat! Absolutely great. This IS a revolution.
I love the way you use your TS lenses. Great color.
Great quality. You could paint out the seat belt
in the helicopter shot though ![]()
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Comment by Andrew 09.22.08 @ 11:58 pmSimply amazing! And the fact that a photographer as busy as you spends the better part of this last week working on this “project”, getting it out there for all to see, is also amazing. THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS HARD WORK!
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Comment by Mario 09.22.08 @ 11:58 pmAll I can say is that I’ve practically made your blog my homepage. I’ve refreshed its sooo many times waiting to see this video. You’re work is so inspiring! Thank you.
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Comment by Stewart Uy 09.22.08 @ 11:58 pmThis was absolutely outstanding work. The team here at GearPatrol.com commends you for the work you did. Seriously awesome… inspiring.
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Comment by Eric 09.22.08 @ 11:58 pmDamn. This just means they’re going to be back-ordered forever. ![]()
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Comment by Alex 09.22.08 @ 11:58 pmI would like to see if something like Coldplay’s Yellow video could be done with this camera. Extreme low light, one take.
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Comment by ray 09.22.08 @ 11:58 pmamazing. exciting…. i have goose pimples all over.. i am sitting writing a script and ideas b/c i am inspired to make my own. thank you!!
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Comment by smario777 09.22.08 @ 11:59 pmI simply can’t get over this video. Kudos!! Can’t wait to get my hands on one!!
(._.)
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Comment by Richard Getz 09.23.08 @ 12:00 amI can’t stop watching it (I’ll save it locally to save the bandwidth).
Great job on the video!
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Comment by JVL 09.23.08 @ 12:00 amThe quality is impressive. Maybe you should get a commission on all the Canon 5D MkII’s that are going to be purchased because of this. I know I’m going to buy one! It would be fun to know what lenses were used for which frames. A person could guess some of them, but it would still be interesting none-the-less. Thanks so much for what you do.
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Comment by Naomi from MN 09.23.08 @ 12:00 amWhich frames were shot with the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L
TS-E 45mm f/2.8? Simply amazing.
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Comment by april tse 09.23.08 @ 12:02 am@Daniel Garcia: yes, that would work, but it’s certainly not ideal… (Plus there are very few video cameras out there that can shoot 48fps)
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Comment by ben syverson 09.23.08 @ 12:04 amWow… just wow… (Love the Moby - Extreme Ways at the end)
Look at that image quality!!!! Very well filmed, good job!
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Comment by Scott B. 09.23.08 @ 12:04 amThanks for sharing Vince, I was particularly excited to see the aerial footage. How did the camera behave for aerial work in your opinion. Were you shooting with a gyro handheld?
Nice Job!
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Comment by Tabb Firchau 09.23.08 @ 12:04 amSimply incredible for an SLR! As you said this is a total game changer. I already found a use for having both still and video capabilities in one unit for our photographers where I work. They already use the 5D. The quality of the video will help combine two services with using only one person as opposed to using a small crew. Definitely time to upgrade.
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Comment by Gittar 09.23.08 @ 12:04 amLooks great, I can’t wait to see the making-of video and see how it all came together and scope out what was used where!
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Comment by Miles 09.23.08 @ 12:05 amHoly Crap. That was astonishing! Seriously, Holy Crap. I just keep saying it. Wow, wonderful video.
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Comment by Tim Larsen 09.23.08 @ 12:07 amAlso, maybe it’s just my untrained eye, but I didn’t spot any rolling shutter problems. All the fast action, like running out of the apartment and grabbing the flowers, the wheels spinning then skidding to a halt.. all that stuff looked perfect to me.
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Comment by Miles 09.23.08 @ 12:08 amAmazing (yet pricey) result, given such a short period.
Now I understand why Canon didn’t bother improving the aging AF system of the 5D : this mkII is for filming, not photographing (what was I thinking?).
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Comment by Paul 09.23.08 @ 12:08 amStunning. Kudos Vincent, Canon and everyone involved.
As Stu said, if Canon can add a 24p mode and a shutter speed control (or a fixed 180 degree shutter) we could have a full film look!
I’m still drooling… ![]()
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Comment by Nordin Rahhali 09.23.08 @ 12:09 amGreat work! I can’t wait to see the behind the scenes footage!
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Comment by Chris 09.23.08 @ 12:09 amWow, amazing. I must say reading your blog posts have given an extra little boost to save my money and buy the mark II instead of trying to get a good deal on an old 5d
but I look at it this way: you (the consumer) are getting a pro grade video camera and a pro grade SLR for about $3000, thats a deal.
Its like; is the video part of the camera on par with a $1500 video camera?(uh duh) and is the 21 megapixel super SLR part of it worth $1500 as well? you bet!
Thanks so much for sharing this with us
-N8
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Comment by Nate 09.23.08 @ 12:10 am@Don, indeed it’s very strange that Canon would offer the 1080p version to amaze all. I mean even this version was amazing, but I can’t wait to hopefully, eventually be able to enjoy the 1080p version on my 24″ monitor: beauty. I even tried multiple other URIs for the m4v file to see if it was on Canon’s servers but couldn’t find anything…
I hope to see the behind-the-scenes video soon!
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Comment by Scott 09.23.08 @ 12:11 amsomething this good.. from a dslr.. wow.. great job putting this together.. you guys are awesome..
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Comment by Rian 09.23.08 @ 12:11 am@ Paul
In the grand scheme of things, I’m wondering how this is “pricey”.
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Comment by ChrissyOne 09.23.08 @ 12:11 amVery cool!
Great job Vincent!!
So the girl in this movie was Alex(andria?) Rush?
I hope you and others will indeed make more soon.
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Comment by Marshal 09.23.08 @ 12:12 amPretty sweet! Thank you for all the hard work!
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Comment by The Tour Guide 09.23.08 @ 12:12 amWith all due apologies - we are just as exciting as you all seem to be… and it’s time for a BEER..
Have literally not slept for more than 3-4 hours per night for close 10 days…time to celebrate and get some sleep… I’ll be in touch tomorrow….
Afternoon
The Behind The scenes video will be up in 1 hour or so… so if you’re up and excited… so are we… more TK soon!
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Comment by Vincent Laforet 09.23.08 @ 12:13 amincredible… with this, plus other develop tools, huge role in video game development possible.
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Comment by desoduce 09.23.08 @ 12:14 amBtw, if this was downsized to 1/4 resolution, I’d love to see the original version! This is the best I’ve seen since the Red Camera for digital.
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Comment by Marshal 09.23.08 @ 12:14 am> Amazing (yet pricey) result, given such a short period.
> Now I understand why Canon didn’t bother
> improving the aging AF system of the 5D : this
> mkII is for filming, not photographing (what
> was I thinking?).
Nikon always sends one person to poop in the punch bowl, don’t they?
The camera is not at all pricey given its feature set. And its AF system is just fine. It may not have one zillion focus points like some cameras, but how many are really needed? 9 is perfectly fine and the image quality is going to blow everything else away. It is still a dSLR for photography; video is just an added bonus.
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Comment by Johnny Blood 09.23.08 @ 12:14 amVincent,
I’ve been a huge fan of your work - especially since the Beijing Olympics. I followed your blog posts every day. Thank you so much for sharing this. I’ll be one of the first people in Seattle to be getting this camera - I placed my deposit for it at the pro store and more than likely will be receiving the camera from the first shipment. I’ve already got ideas lined up for what I am going to be doing with mine. And I’m just a simple photo geek who’s still honing his craft.
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Comment by Terence Tam 09.23.08 @ 12:15 amStunning… It will be neat to see the evolution of photography as we know it…!!!!
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Comment by Adam Campbell 09.23.08 @ 12:16 am[...] Laforet: Incredible video shot with the Canon 5D MkII - indeed ‘game changing’ « [...]
Pingback by Vincent Laforet: Incredible video shot with the Canon 5D MkII - indeed ‘game changing’ at j a v a j i v e :: photography from indonesia :: 09.23.08 @ 12:21 amUnbelievable work.
I am looking forward to more videos like this.
there is a visible noise in the sky during the last chopper scene
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Comment by Alan 09.23.08 @ 12:22 amVincent,
Thank you for your efforts. The results your have achieved with this new and exciting product makes my job worth while. Your artistic genius is very well appreciated.
DS
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Comment by David Sparer 09.23.08 @ 12:22 amWow, gorgeous short film! I always have video has a red-headed side hobby, but I’ve never had my own camcorder. This combo looks incredible! I hope I can pre-order soon, I don’t want to wait any longer than necessary.
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Comment by Joel Jenkins 09.23.08 @ 12:22 amMindblowingly awesome. This is exciting stuff! I can’t wait to see the behind the scenes vid.
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Comment by Carrie 09.23.08 @ 12:22 amAbsolutely beautiful, Vincent… thanks for all of your work in getting this out to the public.
Looking forward to getting one of these in my camera bag.
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Comment by Stephen Haas 09.23.08 @ 12:23 amAbsolutely unreal! I was skeptical of the video quality ie a gimmick included just because a certain other brand has video, but now… wow! My sense of value/dollar for the 5D II is shifting for the better!
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Comment by mxcamera 09.23.08 @ 12:24 amVincent,
Thank you for showing what is possible with the latest technology. I hope for the best in your new window of opportunity.
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Comment by clinton bowen 09.23.08 @ 12:24 amVincent, absolutely INCREDIBLE! each frame is simply stunning. Wow!
Congrats on your first short film!
-Talya
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Comment by Talya Arbisser 09.23.08 @ 12:26 amI was excited about the video capabilities when the specs were officially released. Canon’s site got killed, but I waited for their anemic video examples (I knew it was something special just seeing the clips, but there were too many unanswered questions for me to jump on ordering it). That is, until I discovered this site and you’re first post about the film! I pre-ordered the 5d then, after reading your success, feeling the excitement about a tool to change independent filmmaking, and eagerly awaited this video!
My god, I am glad I pre-ordered then. This video just ensured a one year waiting list. Now I am just concerned (other than the economy) about how much I will have to pay to get a second body.
Well done and thank you.
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Comment by Ian 09.23.08 @ 12:26 amWow, that is ridiculous. I am sitting here in awe, and can’t believe that I even just viewed that video. I sit at home watching 1080p TV, and shoot with a 12MP SLR, and still can’t even get my mind around the concepts that you just threw at me. Great work, and thank you for sharing.
-DPollitt
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Comment by David Pollitt 09.23.08 @ 12:26 amThis video is a real slap on the face of those who say video is worthless in a DSLR.
Really nice video.
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Comment by Celso 09.23.08 @ 12:27 amSimply Stunning! So glad you got the opportunity to make this happen. This is 1000x better then the samples on the Canon Japan site. Love to see more.
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Comment by SoulSolutions 09.23.08 @ 12:28 amVery nice photography&editing, I would like to see original footage to check detail on shadows and enjoy the production on full size.
btw if its posible Vincent… some lines about WB setup would be nice too
this “camera” makes me going nuts.
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Comment by Alvaro 09.23.08 @ 12:29 amAbsolutely gorgeous production, you make us fellow Canon users proud!
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Comment by rex 09.23.08 @ 12:31 amAstonishing quality from a DSLR. This is indeed going to change the way our industry will function. Nice work =)
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Comment by Eric Leong 09.23.08 @ 12:31 amThat was an amazing piece of work. Many thanks for all your work on this. Initially I thought the video on this camera was just a gimmick. I’m so happy I was wrong. Now I’m waiting for the next one:-)
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Comment by John Triebe 09.23.08 @ 12:32 amEnjoy that well-deserved beer Vincent. I hope it’s OK that I used your image (with attribution and link) on ProLost:
http://prolost.blogspot.com/2008/09/reverie.html
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Comment by Stu 09.23.08 @ 12:32 amHi Vince. Can you convert/resample this video to 24 fps and post that as well so that people stop talking nonsense?
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Comment by Michael McDonald 09.23.08 @ 12:33 am[...] vincent laforet - ado [...]
Pingback by ambientdefocus weblog » Blog Archive » vincent laforet video 09.23.08 @ 12:34 amI really don’t know which I more impressed by, your ability to put together a brilliant piece like that in 72 hours or the camera that it was shot on. I think you have a future in Cinematography.
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Comment by Scott 09.23.08 @ 12:34 amFantastic work, Vincent. I love your translation of your own style with stills to the world of video. It will be a very interesting time for creativity and exploration for photographers when they have this tool in hand. With the right tool in hand, you have quickly (and cheaply) made something magical. Congrats!
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Comment by Ashwin Rao 09.23.08 @ 12:36 amVincent- you’re energy and enthusiasm is both infectious and entertaining. Thanks for letting us see what the 5dII can do.
I’m primarily a still photographer but saw a need to add some other skills to the skillset and started working with video about two years ago - I’m sure you’re well aware of the variety of hats photographers can wear in the business now and in fact, I did the final color grading work on the most recent five episodes of the Discovery HD series “Sunrise Earth” and was curious if you even sent your project to Color let alone did any color correcting on these files.
Thanks again-
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Comment by Russell Kaye 09.23.08 @ 12:39 amAll I can say is wow. uterley amazing for someone with no film experience.
Any chnace you’ll put the full 1080p footage online somewhere so we can really see the quality.
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Comment by Jacob 09.23.08 @ 12:40 amWOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWZA! That blew my freakin’ socks off!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by Sarah Q 09.23.08 @ 12:40 amI am totally blown away at the video you put together. The video quality was fantastic and the cinematography was absolutely gorgeous! I’ve never done any video, but it seems that it opens up a whole ‘nother world beyond still photography!
Thank you Canon for hosting this!!
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Comment by Ariel - We Are All One 09.23.08 @ 12:40 am[...] UPDATE SEPTEMBER 22, 2008 - Awesome 5D MKII Video sample from Vincent Laforet. [...]
Pingback by Canon 5D MKII announced | (tt) Tristan Tom - Visuals 09.23.08 @ 12:43 amYowza! Thanks Vincent! I’ve been in serious need of a creative in the photo butt and I think this is just the thing.
Nice work and kudos for your unbridled enthusiasm.
Cheers!
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Comment by Joe McCabe 09.23.08 @ 12:44 am> Nikon always sends one person to poop in the punch bowl, don’t they?
no, I’m a 5D pro shooter indeed. I have too much invested in L lenses to consider Nikon.
> The camera is not at all pricey given its feature set.
Ahem… I was talking about the $5000 budget for production of the movie.
> but how many are really needed? 9 is perfectly fine
Look at it this way if you will : this 5D mkII has 9 points but only one is cross-type. You certainly know cross-types are the most responsive AF points. You may also know that the 1-year old 40D has 9 cross-type AF points.
I own both and the 40D can lock onto things much faster than the 5D when using peripheral points.
What good is a stunning 21MP image if it’s not in focus because you had to focus-and-recompose ? with the narrow DoF full frame can offer, do you really think focus-recompose is the best way to take a picture ?
And you’d also think a camera that can shoot clean ISO 6400 would be better equipped for low light work (in dark places, only cross-type AF sensors will allow reasonably paced candid shooting).
I’d be curious to hear Vincent’s thoughts on this (he surely uses cameras with more cross-type AF points and surely knows how it can help in getting a better photo)
Vincent ?
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Comment by Paul 09.23.08 @ 12:47 amAn excellent exercise to see the filming ability of this camera. Thank you for your work, it has certainly left the right impression! Can’t wait to get mine.
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Comment by Kagetsu 09.23.08 @ 12:48 amCANON! Please give 24P functionality to this camera via firmware!!!! I’ve already got one pre-ordered but the 5D2 would be an AWESOME B-Roll camera to go with my HV30 and XHA1. Without 24P, I would be forced to shoot in 30P on all my cameras ![]()
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Comment by Yang 09.23.08 @ 12:50 amWonderful. Very inspiring work. It seems like a new world has opened up for us photographers. Simply beautiful. Thank you.
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Comment by dibec 09.23.08 @ 12:52 amThanks for the effort, Monsieur Laforet. You did history, you know. The first Full HD video shot with a Dslr. You deserve all the kudos.
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Comment by Andre Arruda 09.23.08 @ 12:53 amDaniel asked “Stu - could you, in theory, replicate the “180 degree shutter” by shooting at say 48 or 60fps, and then cutting out every other frame? (I know you can’t with this camera, i’m just asking hypothetically)”
The answer is yes—the result would be 24 fps video with each frame exposed at 1/48th. But that is surely breaking in through the back window when the front door really aught to be wide open!
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Comment by Stu 09.23.08 @ 12:57 amWow is all I can say, that is amazing, it’s a game changer. Great work & well earned beer !!!.
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Comment by Nigel 09.23.08 @ 1:03 amWow.
The doors of perception have been blown wide and I’m so grateful to you for your enthusiasm and generosity in sharing your experience.
I’m as excited to get my hands on my own as I am to see what you’re going to do with more than 72 hours.
Cheers,
Nicholas
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Comment by nicholas critelli 09.23.08 @ 1:07 amI sure hope you paid Moby for that soundtrack.
hmmmmm.
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Comment by David M. 09.23.08 @ 1:08 am[...] -Without further ado: Reverie « Vincent Laforet’s Blog [...]
Pingback by Reverie: The Future | byJoeyBaker 09.23.08 @ 1:09 amFor those of you who want the video centered use this link address: http://downloads.canon.com/CDLC/Reverie_Final_Cut2_midres.m4v
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Comment by Erik 09.23.08 @ 1:10 amVincent,
Nice work! You’ve clearly been inspired by this new toy’s capability. Personal projects like this are hard to beat!
So how many times have you just sat, staring at your computer, watching it over and over again with a beaming grin on your face?
Ciao!
-C
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Comment by Cory Silken 09.23.08 @ 1:13 amRockin’
Good job. Now all photogs worldwide will want to be videog’s ![]()
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Comment by Adam Nollmeyer 09.23.08 @ 1:19 am[...] USA heeft de video vandaag geplaatst en het is absoluut spectaculair wat deze camera zonder enige bewerking [...]
Pingback by Meesweg | KennethVerburg.nl - Blogograaf uit Almere 09.23.08 @ 1:21 amLoved the crisp clean images. Nice job Vincent. But, that motion was just awful. The frame rate cadence at 30p just screams “video.” C’mon Canon, give us 24p.
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Comment by Jesse Rosten 09.23.08 @ 1:21 amVincent….
You F****ing Blew my knockers off…
Awesome shoot!!! you sure that you have not shot videos before…
Amazing Color reproduction, excellent composition,
The best part is the camera, the Lens and the DOF. Kudos to Canon..
This little camera is gonna kindle or rekindle the creative fire among a lot of people!!!
Once again, i thank you vincent for putting the time, money and effort in showcasing this awesomeness!!!
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Comment by Rajkumar 09.23.08 @ 1:22 am[...] Tässä Vincent Laforetin tekemä video -> Vincent Laforet - Reverie [...]
Pingback by Digijärkkäreillä HD-videon tekoon… 0 09.23.08 @ 1:23 am@David M, if you watch the credits you’ll see “Music Courtesy of Moby, Used with Permission.”
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Comment by PK 09.23.08 @ 1:26 amWOW!!! Vicent, you rock! Canon has done it yet again! I was in love when I first read the specs, but I could not imagine how truly awesome this camera is until I saw the short film. Now I am head over heals in love! Time to go and pre-order this beautiful camera. I suspect that there will be a lot more HD Xmas videos this year all thanks to the 5D MKII.
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Comment by moonstonemy 09.23.08 @ 1:29 amSo, this and that superfast Casio P&S makes the future of photojournalism, action and sports look like it’s going to be video, or at least 30FPS with still frame grabs. A little bit sad, I think.
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Comment by NRMD 09.23.08 @ 1:35 amBeautiful result, i like de DOF effects and the atmosphere.
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Comment by juanshot 09.23.08 @ 1:39 amBeen waiting all day for this. Downloading now. Thank you very much for this… Can’t wait.
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