Stunning. Pass the paper towels, my screen and keyboard are all wet with slobber

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Wonderful! Please, everyone who has been following the recent developments about this camera: Send Canon an e-mail asking them to enable 24fps shooting via a firmware update! Surely it can be done! Tell everyone and their grandmas to send Canon an e-mail about this!

-Kyril Cvetkov

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…or, more specifically, 24fps, manual exposure control in video mode, and 1/48 sec. shutter speed. Surely all this can be done via a firmware update, right?

-Kyril Cvetkov
Videographer | 1st AC
Portland, Oregon

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Vincent: These raw files are amazing —Thanks again for making this happen!

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Wow… Just fantastic! Personally I don’t find the lack of 24p problematic, but would like to see Canon include it for the sake of others who want it/use it.
Thanks for your energetic work Vincent!

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I think full manual control is far more important than 24p, although both would be awesome.

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Hi Vincent,

Blown away by your footage! I understand you could only record 12 minutes of video at a time…can that be extended with a larger memory card?

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Holy “you need a fast Internet connection Batman” - those files are HUGE. Yes, you need a super-fast PC to play ‘em - it stuttered on mine, but stills looks wonderful … and yes, it is better than watching grass grow.

Great Job - F

P.S. Thank you Vincent for clearing up the 1080i vs. 1080p question I asked earlier - there was a bit of confusion on this since Canon just said 1080 and MichaelR thought it was 1080i.

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WOW!!!!

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All in/Out door lights will flicker,if not match the 50Hz. SO We need 24 or 25p and shutter 1/48, 1/50, 1/100 etc.

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Dear Canon:

24p, please. Manual shutter, ISO and aperture. And 24p, please. We really need full manual control of the shutter speeds—at least let us confirm we’ve selected & locked 1/48. And, please, 24p. This cam will sell many more if you’ll give us full manual control over the ISO. Did I ask for 24p? Full manual aperture control is also a distinct need. Last, but not least, we’d be grateful if you’d provide for 24 FRAME PER SECOND. Tha’s all.

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Vincent

We need more than 24p.

We need no full manual controls as well.

Also, how about a complete list of the equipment you used.

I am particularly interested in how often you used the gyro.

I am sure this helped with Jello but to what degree it was necessary I don’t know.

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Well, I would say why don’t they just add 60 FPS and then none of this would matter. However, I doubt mine or anyone elses computer could efficiently handle that. So my vote is to add a 24 FPS mode to the 30 FPS. Please don’t replace 30 FPS with 24 FPS. I need 30 FPS for the web and fast action scenes but I can see the need for 24 FPS for Indy films!

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24 P please

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Marcomodo/Vincent: the limit is 4gb (max size of a file on FAT32 file system) or 29 minutes and 59 seconds whichever comes first (4gb much more likely to be hit first). Time will be related then to the scene/compression. Also, since I understand video shooting is controlled with the SET button, not the shutter release, a pocket wizard couldn’t be used to control movie shooting. Hopefully there are some functions to facilitate remote control somewhere though…

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Fwd to Canon,

Please add 24p to the 5D MII. This will surely double your sales with indie film makers and alike.

Just note that Nikon is probably also listening to all the comments listed her on Vincent’s site and if you won’t step up, I’m sure the other company will and gladly take another chunk of your market share.

On another note, it seems the that the 30p mode “captures video at 30.00 fps instead of 29.97 and 23.976. This means no 24p, making it useless to indie filmmakers, and also, the 30/1001 difference in the 30p frame rate creates ghosting when imported into a video editor like Vegas, because editors resample instead of re-timing (and then just resample the audio instead of the video)”.

Ref: http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/09/19/the-canon-5d-mark-ii/

BTW, did anyone see this yet? http://zacuto.zenfolio.com/p408746338/h2b63f750#h222aa462

Cheers, Don
4 Year Canon EOS Veteran

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[...] Vincent Laforet wrote an interesting post today onOriginal â??rawâ?? bclips/b from â??Reverieâ?? Now Available for DownloadHere’s a quick excerpt(* SPECIAL NOTE: I have released these bclips/b for you to download to your hard drives for evaluation only. You may share these freely with others with the following terms: AT NO TIME can these images be used in any media whatsoever. b…/b [...]

Canon,
Please allow 24p, Manual shutter, ISO and aperture. And 24p, again please.

-Christopher Arata
DP,AC,Camera op.
Los Angeles, CA

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Great work. If it helps 24p would be great!

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Thanks for the great news about manual exposure and shutter control Vincent! Looks like 24 fps is all that’s missing! Of course, the four “standard” frame rates in use around the world for differing types of productions are 24, 25, 30, and 60, but all us film and video guys know why 24 (and in certain parts of the world, 25) is the magic number, and why nothing else will do for certain productions. Certainly being able to set ANY frame rate from 1 to whatever-is-physically-possible-with-the-current-design would be ideal, for obvious reasons, but for now let’s just have that 24 Canon! I have been on the phone all day long with every local film/video guy I know spreading the word about this camera. Canon–LISTEN–you WILL sell many more THOUSANDS of these cameras if you enable shooting at 24 fps! Don’t be afraid of undermining your $7000 HDV cameras–you’ve already done it even without 24fps.

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Is it just me or is anyone having trouble playing these 1080p files smoothly on their machines?

I have an E6300 Core2 Duo with Quicktime Pro and It is far from smooth. I have the new ATI 4850 video card that should offload all video processing onto the video card. That does not appear to be working with these files.

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We need 24p… but I don’t know why… :p

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24p is the way to go here in europe: we want it canon
and we need a manual control…the ability to lock it to 1/48 for instance.

IT’S VITAL TO US EUROPEANS AND SERIOUS FILM MAKERS !!!!!!!!!

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I agree, 24p and manual control on settings would be fantastic.

And since Canon is listening…don’t mean to stray…but its important….

Another feature I truly hope they include…because its the only thing Nikon has that I wish my 5D had… 5-frame bracketing! Why only 3 frames??? I shoot a tremendous amount of HDR, and 5-frames bracketing is essential sometimes. I know it is for many panoramic and HDR photographers.

This new camera is made for HDR!!! Especially with its resolution! I regularly shoot roughly 30″ x 120″ native size panoramas with my 5D. The resolution available with this new 5DmkII is promising to be perfect for those of us that do super-hi-res work! But please Canon… 5-frame bracketing! That’s gotta be an easy firmware adjustment!

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Hey Vincent,

sorry for the multiple postings a few days ago, i was having some computer problems.

Not knowing to much about video, is it possible to alter the aperture or any setting for that matter, while it is recording, via a computer? or even better yet use a ethernet adapter and stream the video straight to your computer without the need for memory cards.

I understand that would be a slow transfer, but that would be crazy if you had multiple cameras all feeding to a workstation and able to edit or compose video on the fly.

This may seem a little out of the blue aswell. but all the talk has simply been about the movie capabilities, how does this camera compare to the new Nikon, (I am a die hard Canon user, but i have a lot of friends who shoot Nikon)

Ultimately it doesn’t matter how you get the image, just so long as you go it.

Canon we need 24P!

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I’m also requesting 24P and manual shutter. Scarlet will have it, right?

Filmmakers will thank you.

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beautiful. just placed a pre-order for this remarkable instrument. thank you vincent for giving us a peak of what this advancement in technology can do.

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24p!!!!
Do it!!!!
I’m not a video guy so I’m not sure why it’s so important but it seems to be in pretty high demand so count me in!
24p!

Oh and of course, thanks for the clips Vincent, great to see what comes out of that beast. Looking forward to those stills as well…

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[...] Check it out here. [...]

I also placed a preorder by the way! (and paid!) Not only that…but I think I might need to replace my other bodies with more 5DmkII bodies! What can possibly be a backup to this camera besides itself??

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Come on Canon the HV20 has 24p certainly this can at four times the price!

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Canon,

If you’re reading this, please add support for 24p!!

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Thanks for posting the RAW video, so good to see it… 24p and any other manual control would be sweet.

I see a white dot on the 0795 and 0492 in the same place (0706 is hard to tell, just left of the empire state bldg., it stays put as camera moves), is that a burnt out pixel? I had a Canon with a pixel like that, it only shows in low light. Did you notice this and if so, what’s your take on what it is and how to correct? (or is it chalked up to preproduction unit?)

Thanks, keep it up.

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wow thanks for sharing,
I even put a couple of them in photoshop and put some curves color correction on top and ran unsharp mask(using smart filters so it’d render every frame) and they look even more amazing

Yes canon if your listening give us 24p so we can be on the same page as standard 1080i
although I’d still like to have the option of using 30 and it would TOTALLY knock my socks off if you could make run something like 60fps and beyond but I know thats near impossible(at least with HD) but hey, I can dream can’t I?

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Canon, please add 24P…

Just like in the old days where 24p was chosen to make production less expensive because there were “only” 24 frames per second, having 24p will allow us to extend maximum HD shooting time to 16 minutes !
Or even, let’s be crazy, to keep 12 minutes of shooting time but with a 30% lower compression !

We’re limited to 4GB because of FAT32 on CF cards.
Why not even allow seamless file-splitting to overcome the 4GB limit on cards bigger than 4GB ?

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Canon

Please add 24p as an option.

Additionally, for those shooting HDR, give us more exposure compensation range than +/- 2, plus more than 3 shoots.

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Jonathan, I saw the hot pixels too. Yes there are 2 of them, one white near the center-right, and another red one (!) higher in the frame.

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Canon, please give us a hot-pixel mapping utility in-camera ! hot pixels are inevitable on such a high MP sensor, as cameras get old. Pros don’t like to be without their tools when they have to send the camera in for pixel mapping… (and the added cost simply adds insult to injury)

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Until then Jonathan, if this markII is like the original, you can just trigger a manual sensor cleaning procedure, and the full second before the camera opens the shutter curtain, is used to map the hot pixels automatically. It worked on some occasions with my 5D. Unfortunately, being completely automatic and undocumented, most hot pixels won’t be cured as the camera gets old.

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Canon, step up and show the competition you really do listen to your customers.

It shouldn’t be unreasonably costly, it’ll expand the cameras marketability, and most importantly it will let those loyal users of your products know that you still care about what we think and want.

1080p at 24p and fully manual control over the Iris, ISO, and Shutter while shooting video on the new Canon 5d Mark II.

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forget to say that these clips are STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!

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Vincent: You might want to edit your blog post to mention how everyone needs to comment to Canon about 24p (and other features). The one thing I’ve seen consistently this last week of following your blog is that few people read the comments after reading the blog and/or posting a comment themselves.

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Thanks Vincent for a great test run! Very impressive.
Canon: I sure hope there will be a software upgrade for the 24P issue and any other bugs that may pop up after the Mark II hit the streets. Plus sensor vibration control on the Mark III !

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Thanks for posting this! Mark II really is a game changer. I was a Nikon guy till I saw this!

Petar
http://iBetaTest.com

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24p would also help with slower computers trying to play this! The 1080p at 30 FPS is a beast. I have a very powerful machine that plays 1080p Blu-rays without a hicup. It was brought to its knees with these videos!

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Also add 60i. If the camera can do 30p, 60i is nothing difficult but the motion will be much better.

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Only two things are keeping me from buying this camera: no 24p and no manual iris, shutter, and ISO control in movie mode. One member of dvxuser.com actually CANCELLED his pre-order because of the lack of manual controls.

Including 24p and full manual control will sell ten times as many cameras!

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Looks, and plays, great on my 2.4 GHz MacBook Pro. It does peg the CPUs at about 130-140%. Also looks nice on my 1080p Panasonic plasma.

I too noticed the hot pixels. I noticed the red one in the 1/4 size final cut, but didn’t see the white one until seeing the full-size clips. Hopefully just a pre-prod issue. Also, what’s causing the bright line of dots (like a string of pearls) along the suspension bridge lights when the scene is de-focused in clip 492? You have to look for it in the 1/4 scale, but very obvious in the full-size.

Oh, and 24 fps please. Throw in 720p, too while you are at it. After all we are getting sRAW for the option of smaller file sizes.

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If everyone else is requesting 24p then I will add my own request! I want the Canon SX1-IS in the US. It will shoot the same 1920×1080 resolution video as the 5D MK II. However, this camera is not currently set to be sold in North America.

Imagine the same resolution video as the Canon 5D’s video for $600! Now it won’t have the depth of field and low light sensitivity but for those of us who chopped down the money tree already it would be a good option!

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_sx1is.asp

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[...] Laforet has released the raw video files that he used to make his short film Reverie. He released them to quiet the skeptics who didn’t believe that his film was made on the [...]

I’m a photographer but if the film buffs say they need 24p. Give them what they want Canon. This camera is making me want to get back into video after so many years. And I know it will be only a little time before I know why I need 24p.

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I’m blown away. Canon- Give Vincent his 24p!

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I shoot 24P with videos and I need this feature if I am to use the 5D Mark II as a serious video camera. The technology behind 24P, as I know it, however, requires that the camera shoot at 48 frames per second, and half of the frames are left out in the recording process. I dont know if the camera is capable of doing so with a simple firmware update? uping it to 48 fps? And correct me if i am wrong in this.

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I am trying to convert the file to 24p right now with Video Vegas. It isn’t going so well!

Is it ok if we re compress the video for our own personal use?

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Stu Maschwitz of The Orphanage said”

“And now for some specifics: While 30 fps is useful, it would be better if the camera ran at 29.97 fps, the actual speed of NTSC video. Similarly, when I say 24p, I am really talking about 23.976 fps. In Europe, users will want a 25 fps mode for compatibility with PAL video. Again, none of this is news to your pro video division.

Stu Maschwitz
http://www.theorphanage.com
http://www.prolost.com“

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Thanks for your earlier reply on the gyro use Vincent. That’s great News!

Another question would be are all the controls in movie mode manual?

There has been conflicting info and it would be great to clear that up.

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[...] new dslr, then the raw clips from the new Canon 5DMkII are now available at Vincent Laforet’s blog.. EXIF information model Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT exposureTime 1/100 s fnumber f/11.0 [...]

Canon

I’ve already pre-ordered one but I’ll order another 2 if you can do the following

1 - Give me 24p
2 - Give me 1/48th
3 - As a bonus, since you’re going to be mucking around with firmware, I’d like a one touch 1:1 preview on back LCD for instant focus check while you’re in there. thanks.

(ok, number 3 is negotiable)

Vincent, Amazing footage, just amazing. Great work.

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Not sure why everyone is griping about 24 fps, isn’t more fps the better?

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I forgot to mention…..

Vincent great work! You are Da MAN! I hope nothing but the best for you, your family, and your new found video career!

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Vincent,

Did you try rendering the file to 24p? What happened when you did? I guess IVTC/TC wouldn’t really work with 30 FPS would it?

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24p, 1/48 shutter, manual controls please! Variable frame rate would be nice! I intend to use this for filmmaking and I intend to buy a lot of glass!

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24p please. Also can we have an option of 720p like s-raw? Vincent-great movie.

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Vincent - Bravo!
Canon - 24p please!
Also, to those that have complained about choppy playback, you may want to give this a try.
I’m using Quicktime Pro so I don’t know if this works with the regular free version of QT.
When I initially tried to play the clips I also got the choppy 5-10fps playback.
Go under VIEW and first check the “Play All Frames” line, then check the “Loop” funtion and then the “Full Screen” funtion.
After the first choppy playback it will then playback in full just fine.
I hope that helps some.

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24p is a must canon! You will sell thousands more 5D MKIIs if you add that feature. Many film makers that want this camera aren’t buying it becuase of the the 30p feature.

Also, full manual controls would be great! You’re inches away from a perfect product. Don’t stop now. Having 30p is a deal breaker for many would be buyers of this otherwise perfect camera.

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Can anyone verify that the camera does indeed send the uncompressed video signal out the HDMI port at 4:2:2 during recording? All the HV20 guys know where I’m going with this… also, there’s your on-camera monitoring/orientable viewfinder solution as well. Just get a $10 HDMI splitter, a small LCD field monitor, and a hotshoe adapter. While we’re at it, lets throw a PL mount on there and figure out a way to marry it to an Arri baseplate with some 15mm rods. Then figure out a way to adapt a larger, heavier battery for added weight and longer powering. Throw another bracket on there for your HDMI field recorder. This 5D MkII “Frankencam” will exist very soon, just watch. Split the HDMI again and send the signal to the client monitor to calm their fears after seeing your rather unconventional-looking camera.

Can’t wait to see what Red comes up with for their redesigned Scarlet. Does anyone else think they will bump up the sensor from 2/3″ to Super 35 because of our new SLR wundercam?

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The quality is fantastic. It is also going to be great to see the still shots as well as this is what most people will buy this camera for. I would love if you posted for download some of the high quality RAW still photos so we can see the quality of those. Hopefully canon listen and update the camera to 24p via an update as well as this would be real handy for everyone.

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I will buy 10 Cameras if they add 24p!

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I’d MUCH rather have manual exposure control than 24 fps.

Sure, give us both, but please START with even a custom function option to choose between totally auto (as now), portrait mode (min DOF), and landscape mode (max DOF).

Chuck Westfall has confirmed what others have already stated. The only video exposure controls currently on 5DII are exp +/- and lock. ISO, aperture & shutter speed are chosed by fuzzy logic.

To loosely quote Chuck from another forum: it is unreasonable to expect that you will currently be able to shoot video with this camera at both maximum aperture, and low ISO.

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Nikon,
Please increase the bit rate of the recording mode of the D90 via a firmware update.
Thank you.

Oops, is this the wrong thread?

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[...] at 960×540, and the pixel-peepers have demanded a full 1080P raw footage after the release. Here they are. Three raw videos straight out of the camera at full resolution and believe us, Canon will [...]

Cannon 24p and 1/48th please!!!!

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24p and I’ll but one…

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Must have… Please, we need 24fps - it’s a simple firmware upgrade.

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PLEASE!!!!!!!

OH and —->>>> Manual shutter, ISO and aperture.

Thank You

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Yes, please add 24p!

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I used to have a 5D. I would get the 5D MKII if it had 24P video recording.

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Canon please add 24p recording!

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24p is a must. Canon, please don’t take the low road and reserve this for only your top end.
You’ve revolutionized industry with the new 5D, let 24p be your next revelation.

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There seems to be a couple of dead photodiodes on that sensor. Is it just me? It is most obvious in the helicopter shot. During the first second, a red speck is visible behind the actor’s neck (after that it’s too light), and throughout the whole clip, a gray one, just right of the center…

But anyway, thank you, Vincent, for this whole project. I am convinced it has inspired many people, given them the desire to step in the video bandwagon. People who would otherwise have seen the video capability of the camera as merely a necessary marketing move…

Oh, and yes, Canon, 24fps would be great!

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Well I finally got an encode of the video to work at 24 FPS or 23.976 to be more precise! It actually worked very well!

I encoded the file to lossless wma audio at 16 bit 44 Khz and I did 100% quality with wmv9 advanced profile.

The video was indistinguishable from the original and the audio was lossless. What is interesting is that the bit rate was almost identical to the .mov file at 40 mbps for audio and video.

I was able to play the file easily with PowerDVD 8(with sound) once I converted it. PowerDVD also reported that the FPS was 24.

It may require one extra step to get 24 FPS but atleast it is an option?

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I need 24fps firmware update please!

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24p will make such a difference because of that film look.
please canon, give us that

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So when will we see the completed video in actual 1080p?

I know for sure that would look amazing, the downscaled video doesn’t do it justice heh

Very nice job, can’t wait for the camera. Pre-ordering now sounds like a good idea to me.

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Canon, ADD 24p.

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Canon, give us 24p as well as the full control of aperture, shutter and exposure. People would not simply pay 3 times more just to get these on your top-of-the-line 1ds! You may want to throw in a little better AF too.

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Another voice in favor of 24p– in a nutshell, it would allow the video taken with the 5d II to have that more cinematic / artistic look and feel, and for a great many people to take the video feature more seriously. With 24p, there&#