Stunning. Pass the paper towels, my screen and keyboard are all wet with slobber

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Wonderful! Please, everyone who has been following the recent developments about this camera: Send Canon an e-mail asking them to enable 24fps shooting via a firmware update! Surely it can be done! Tell everyone and their grandmas to send Canon an e-mail about this!

-Kyril Cvetkov

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…or, more specifically, 24fps, manual exposure control in video mode, and 1/48 sec. shutter speed. Surely all this can be done via a firmware update, right?

-Kyril Cvetkov
Videographer | 1st AC
Portland, Oregon

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Vincent: These raw files are amazing —Thanks again for making this happen!

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Wow… Just fantastic! Personally I don’t find the lack of 24p problematic, but would like to see Canon include it for the sake of others who want it/use it.
Thanks for your energetic work Vincent!

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I think full manual control is far more important than 24p, although both would be awesome.

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Hi Vincent,

Blown away by your footage! I understand you could only record 12 minutes of video at a time…can that be extended with a larger memory card?

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Holy “you need a fast Internet connection Batman” - those files are HUGE. Yes, you need a super-fast PC to play ‘em - it stuttered on mine, but stills looks wonderful … and yes, it is better than watching grass grow.

Great Job - F

P.S. Thank you Vincent for clearing up the 1080i vs. 1080p question I asked earlier - there was a bit of confusion on this since Canon just said 1080 and MichaelR thought it was 1080i.

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All in/Out door lights will flicker,if not match the 50Hz. SO We need 24 or 25p and shutter 1/48, 1/50, 1/100 etc.

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Dear Canon:

24p, please. Manual shutter, ISO and aperture. And 24p, please. We really need full manual control of the shutter speeds—at least let us confirm we’ve selected & locked 1/48. And, please, 24p. This cam will sell many more if you’ll give us full manual control over the ISO. Did I ask for 24p? Full manual aperture control is also a distinct need. Last, but not least, we’d be grateful if you’d provide for 24 FRAME PER SECOND. Tha’s all.

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Vincent

We need more than 24p.

We need no full manual controls as well.

Also, how about a complete list of the equipment you used.

I am particularly interested in how often you used the gyro.

I am sure this helped with Jello but to what degree it was necessary I don’t know.

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Well, I would say why don’t they just add 60 FPS and then none of this would matter. However, I doubt mine or anyone elses computer could efficiently handle that. So my vote is to add a 24 FPS mode to the 30 FPS. Please don’t replace 30 FPS with 24 FPS. I need 30 FPS for the web and fast action scenes but I can see the need for 24 FPS for Indy films!

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24 P please

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Marcomodo/Vincent: the limit is 4gb (max size of a file on FAT32 file system) or 29 minutes and 59 seconds whichever comes first (4gb much more likely to be hit first). Time will be related then to the scene/compression. Also, since I understand video shooting is controlled with the SET button, not the shutter release, a pocket wizard couldn’t be used to control movie shooting. Hopefully there are some functions to facilitate remote control somewhere though…

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Fwd to Canon,

Please add 24p to the 5D MII. This will surely double your sales with indie film makers and alike.

Just note that Nikon is probably also listening to all the comments listed her on Vincent’s site and if you won’t step up, I’m sure the other company will and gladly take another chunk of your market share.

On another note, it seems the that the 30p mode “captures video at 30.00 fps instead of 29.97 and 23.976. This means no 24p, making it useless to indie filmmakers, and also, the 30/1001 difference in the 30p frame rate creates ghosting when imported into a video editor like Vegas, because editors resample instead of re-timing (and then just resample the audio instead of the video)”.

Ref: http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/09/19/the-canon-5d-mark-ii/

BTW, did anyone see this yet? http://zacuto.zenfolio.com/p408746338/h2b63f750#h222aa462

Cheers, Don
4 Year Canon EOS Veteran

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[...] Vincent Laforet wrote an interesting post today onOriginal â??rawâ?? bclips/b from â??Reverieâ?? Now Available for DownloadHere’s a quick excerpt(* SPECIAL NOTE: I have released these bclips/b for you to download to your hard drives for evaluation only. You may share these freely with others with the following terms: AT NO TIME can these images be used in any media whatsoever. b…/b [...]

Canon,
Please allow 24p, Manual shutter, ISO and aperture. And 24p, again please.

-Christopher Arata
DP,AC,Camera op.
Los Angeles, CA

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Great work. If it helps 24p would be great!

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Thanks for the great news about manual exposure and shutter control Vincent! Looks like 24 fps is all that’s missing! Of course, the four “standard” frame rates in use around the world for differing types of productions are 24, 25, 30, and 60, but all us film and video guys know why 24 (and in certain parts of the world, 25) is the magic number, and why nothing else will do for certain productions. Certainly being able to set ANY frame rate from 1 to whatever-is-physically-possible-with-the-current-design would be ideal, for obvious reasons, but for now let’s just have that 24 Canon! I have been on the phone all day long with every local film/video guy I know spreading the word about this camera. Canon–LISTEN–you WILL sell many more THOUSANDS of these cameras if you enable shooting at 24 fps! Don’t be afraid of undermining your $7000 HDV cameras–you’ve already done it even without 24fps.

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Is it just me or is anyone having trouble playing these 1080p files smoothly on their machines?

I have an E6300 Core2 Duo with Quicktime Pro and It is far from smooth. I have the new ATI 4850 video card that should offload all video processing onto the video card. That does not appear to be working with these files.

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We need 24p… but I don’t know why… :p

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24p is the way to go here in europe: we want it canon
and we need a manual control…the ability to lock it to 1/48 for instance.

IT’S VITAL TO US EUROPEANS AND SERIOUS FILM MAKERS !!!!!!!!!

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I agree, 24p and manual control on settings would be fantastic.

And since Canon is listening…don’t mean to stray…but its important….

Another feature I truly hope they include…because its the only thing Nikon has that I wish my 5D had… 5-frame bracketing! Why only 3 frames??? I shoot a tremendous amount of HDR, and 5-frames bracketing is essential sometimes. I know it is for many panoramic and HDR photographers.

This new camera is made for HDR!!! Especially with its resolution! I regularly shoot roughly 30″ x 120″ native size panoramas with my 5D. The resolution available with this new 5DmkII is promising to be perfect for those of us that do super-hi-res work! But please Canon… 5-frame bracketing! That’s gotta be an easy firmware adjustment!

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Hey Vincent,

sorry for the multiple postings a few days ago, i was having some computer problems.

Not knowing to much about video, is it possible to alter the aperture or any setting for that matter, while it is recording, via a computer? or even better yet use a ethernet adapter and stream the video straight to your computer without the need for memory cards.

I understand that would be a slow transfer, but that would be crazy if you had multiple cameras all feeding to a workstation and able to edit or compose video on the fly.

This may seem a little out of the blue aswell. but all the talk has simply been about the movie capabilities, how does this camera compare to the new Nikon, (I am a die hard Canon user, but i have a lot of friends who shoot Nikon)

Ultimately it doesn’t matter how you get the image, just so long as you go it.

Canon we need 24P!

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I’m also requesting 24P and manual shutter. Scarlet will have it, right?

Filmmakers will thank you.

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beautiful. just placed a pre-order for this remarkable instrument. thank you vincent for giving us a peak of what this advancement in technology can do.

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24p!!!!
Do it!!!!
I’m not a video guy so I’m not sure why it’s so important but it seems to be in pretty high demand so count me in!
24p!

Oh and of course, thanks for the clips Vincent, great to see what comes out of that beast. Looking forward to those stills as well…

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[...] Check it out here. [...]

I also placed a preorder by the way! (and paid!) Not only that…but I think I might need to replace my other bodies with more 5DmkII bodies! What can possibly be a backup to this camera besides itself??

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Come on Canon the HV20 has 24p certainly this can at four times the price!

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Canon,

If you’re reading this, please add support for 24p!!

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Thanks for posting the RAW video, so good to see it… 24p and any other manual control would be sweet.

I see a white dot on the 0795 and 0492 in the same place (0706 is hard to tell, just left of the empire state bldg., it stays put as camera moves), is that a burnt out pixel? I had a Canon with a pixel like that, it only shows in low light. Did you notice this and if so, what’s your take on what it is and how to correct? (or is it chalked up to preproduction unit?)

Thanks, keep it up.

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wow thanks for sharing,
I even put a couple of them in photoshop and put some curves color correction on top and ran unsharp mask(using smart filters so it’d render every frame) and they look even more amazing

Yes canon if your listening give us 24p so we can be on the same page as standard 1080i
although I’d still like to have the option of using 30 and it would TOTALLY knock my socks off if you could make run something like 60fps and beyond but I know thats near impossible(at least with HD) but hey, I can dream can’t I?

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Canon, please add 24P…

Just like in the old days where 24p was chosen to make production less expensive because there were “only” 24 frames per second, having 24p will allow us to extend maximum HD shooting time to 16 minutes !
Or even, let’s be crazy, to keep 12 minutes of shooting time but with a 30% lower compression !

We’re limited to 4GB because of FAT32 on CF cards.
Why not even allow seamless file-splitting to overcome the 4GB limit on cards bigger than 4GB ?

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Canon

Please add 24p as an option.

Additionally, for those shooting HDR, give us more exposure compensation range than +/- 2, plus more than 3 shoots.

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Jonathan, I saw the hot pixels too. Yes there are 2 of them, one white near the center-right, and another red one (!) higher in the frame.

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Canon, please give us a hot-pixel mapping utility in-camera ! hot pixels are inevitable on such a high MP sensor, as cameras get old. Pros don’t like to be without their tools when they have to send the camera in for pixel mapping… (and the added cost simply adds insult to injury)

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Until then Jonathan, if this markII is like the original, you can just trigger a manual sensor cleaning procedure, and the full second before the camera opens the shutter curtain, is used to map the hot pixels automatically. It worked on some occasions with my 5D. Unfortunately, being completely automatic and undocumented, most hot pixels won’t be cured as the camera gets old.

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Canon, step up and show the competition you really do listen to your customers.

It shouldn’t be unreasonably costly, it’ll expand the cameras marketability, and most importantly it will let those loyal users of your products know that you still care about what we think and want.

1080p at 24p and fully manual control over the Iris, ISO, and Shutter while shooting video on the new Canon 5d Mark II.

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forget to say that these clips are STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!

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Vincent: You might want to edit your blog post to mention how everyone needs to comment to Canon about 24p (and other features). The one thing I’ve seen consistently this last week of following your blog is that few people read the comments after reading the blog and/or posting a comment themselves.

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Thanks Vincent for a great test run! Very impressive.
Canon: I sure hope there will be a software upgrade for the 24P issue and any other bugs that may pop up after the Mark II hit the streets. Plus sensor vibration control on the Mark III !

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Thanks for posting this! Mark II really is a game changer. I was a Nikon guy till I saw this!

Petar
http://iBetaTest.com

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24p would also help with slower computers trying to play this! The 1080p at 30 FPS is a beast. I have a very powerful machine that plays 1080p Blu-rays without a hicup. It was brought to its knees with these videos!

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Also add 60i. If the camera can do 30p, 60i is nothing difficult but the motion will be much better.

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Only two things are keeping me from buying this camera: no 24p and no manual iris, shutter, and ISO control in movie mode. One member of dvxuser.com actually CANCELLED his pre-order because of the lack of manual controls.

Including 24p and full manual control will sell ten times as many cameras!

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Looks, and plays, great on my 2.4 GHz MacBook Pro. It does peg the CPUs at about 130-140%. Also looks nice on my 1080p Panasonic plasma.

I too noticed the hot pixels. I noticed the red one in the 1/4 size final cut, but didn’t see the white one until seeing the full-size clips. Hopefully just a pre-prod issue. Also, what’s causing the bright line of dots (like a string of pearls) along the suspension bridge lights when the scene is de-focused in clip 492? You have to look for it in the 1/4 scale, but very obvious in the full-size.

Oh, and 24 fps please. Throw in 720p, too while you are at it. After all we are getting sRAW for the option of smaller file sizes.

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If everyone else is requesting 24p then I will add my own request! I want the Canon SX1-IS in the US. It will shoot the same 1920×1080 resolution video as the 5D MK II. However, this camera is not currently set to be sold in North America.

Imagine the same resolution video as the Canon 5D’s video for $600! Now it won’t have the depth of field and low light sensitivity but for those of us who chopped down the money tree already it would be a good option!

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_sx1is.asp

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[...] Laforet has released the raw video files that he used to make his short film Reverie. He released them to quiet the skeptics who didn’t believe that his film was made on the [...]

I’m a photographer but if the film buffs say they need 24p. Give them what they want Canon. This camera is making me want to get back into video after so many years. And I know it will be only a little time before I know why I need 24p.

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I’m blown away. Canon- Give Vincent his 24p!

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I shoot 24P with videos and I need this feature if I am to use the 5D Mark II as a serious video camera. The technology behind 24P, as I know it, however, requires that the camera shoot at 48 frames per second, and half of the frames are left out in the recording process. I dont know if the camera is capable of doing so with a simple firmware update? uping it to 48 fps? And correct me if i am wrong in this.

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I am trying to convert the file to 24p right now with Video Vegas. It isn’t going so well!

Is it ok if we re compress the video for our own personal use?

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Stu Maschwitz of The Orphanage said”

“And now for some specifics: While 30 fps is useful, it would be better if the camera ran at 29.97 fps, the actual speed of NTSC video. Similarly, when I say 24p, I am really talking about 23.976 fps. In Europe, users will want a 25 fps mode for compatibility with PAL video. Again, none of this is news to your pro video division.

Stu Maschwitz
http://www.theorphanage.com
http://www.prolost.com“

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Thanks for your earlier reply on the gyro use Vincent. That’s great News!

Another question would be are all the controls in movie mode manual?

There has been conflicting info and it would be great to clear that up.

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[...] new dslr, then the raw clips from the new Canon 5DMkII are now available at Vincent Laforet’s blog.. EXIF information model Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT exposureTime 1/100 s fnumber f/11.0 [...]

Canon

I’ve already pre-ordered one but I’ll order another 2 if you can do the following

1 - Give me 24p
2 - Give me 1/48th
3 - As a bonus, since you’re going to be mucking around with firmware, I’d like a one touch 1:1 preview on back LCD for instant focus check while you’re in there. thanks.

(ok, number 3 is negotiable)

Vincent, Amazing footage, just amazing. Great work.

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Not sure why everyone is griping about 24 fps, isn’t more fps the better?

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I forgot to mention…..

Vincent great work! You are Da MAN! I hope nothing but the best for you, your family, and your new found video career!

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Vincent,

Did you try rendering the file to 24p? What happened when you did? I guess IVTC/TC wouldn’t really work with 30 FPS would it?

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24p, 1/48 shutter, manual controls please! Variable frame rate would be nice! I intend to use this for filmmaking and I intend to buy a lot of glass!

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24p please. Also can we have an option of 720p like s-raw? Vincent-great movie.

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Vincent - Bravo!
Canon - 24p please!
Also, to those that have complained about choppy playback, you may want to give this a try.
I’m using Quicktime Pro so I don’t know if this works with the regular free version of QT.
When I initially tried to play the clips I also got the choppy 5-10fps playback.
Go under VIEW and first check the “Play All Frames” line, then check the “Loop” funtion and then the “Full Screen” funtion.
After the first choppy playback it will then playback in full just fine.
I hope that helps some.

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24p is a must canon! You will sell thousands more 5D MKIIs if you add that feature. Many film makers that want this camera aren’t buying it becuase of the the 30p feature.

Also, full manual controls would be great! You’re inches away from a perfect product. Don’t stop now. Having 30p is a deal breaker for many would be buyers of this otherwise perfect camera.

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Can anyone verify that the camera does indeed send the uncompressed video signal out the HDMI port at 4:2:2 during recording? All the HV20 guys know where I’m going with this… also, there’s your on-camera monitoring/orientable viewfinder solution as well. Just get a $10 HDMI splitter, a small LCD field monitor, and a hotshoe adapter. While we’re at it, lets throw a PL mount on there and figure out a way to marry it to an Arri baseplate with some 15mm rods. Then figure out a way to adapt a larger, heavier battery for added weight and longer powering. Throw another bracket on there for your HDMI field recorder. This 5D MkII “Frankencam” will exist very soon, just watch. Split the HDMI again and send the signal to the client monitor to calm their fears after seeing your rather unconventional-looking camera.

Can’t wait to see what Red comes up with for their redesigned Scarlet. Does anyone else think they will bump up the sensor from 2/3″ to Super 35 because of our new SLR wundercam?

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The quality is fantastic. It is also going to be great to see the still shots as well as this is what most people will buy this camera for. I would love if you posted for download some of the high quality RAW still photos so we can see the quality of those. Hopefully canon listen and update the camera to 24p via an update as well as this would be real handy for everyone.

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I will buy 10 Cameras if they add 24p!

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I’d MUCH rather have manual exposure control than 24 fps.

Sure, give us both, but please START with even a custom function option to choose between totally auto (as now), portrait mode (min DOF), and landscape mode (max DOF).

Chuck Westfall has confirmed what others have already stated. The only video exposure controls currently on 5DII are exp +/- and lock. ISO, aperture & shutter speed are chosed by fuzzy logic.

To loosely quote Chuck from another forum: it is unreasonable to expect that you will currently be able to shoot video with this camera at both maximum aperture, and low ISO.

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Nikon,
Please increase the bit rate of the recording mode of the D90 via a firmware update.
Thank you.

Oops, is this the wrong thread?

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[...] at 960×540, and the pixel-peepers have demanded a full 1080P raw footage after the release. Here they are. Three raw videos straight out of the camera at full resolution and believe us, Canon will [...]

Cannon 24p and 1/48th please!!!!

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24p and I’ll but one…

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Must have… Please, we need 24fps - it’s a simple firmware upgrade.

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OH and —->>>> Manual shutter, ISO and aperture.

Thank You

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Yes, please add 24p!

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I used to have a 5D. I would get the 5D MKII if it had 24P video recording.

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Canon please add 24p recording!

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24p is a must. Canon, please don’t take the low road and reserve this for only your top end.
You’ve revolutionized industry with the new 5D, let 24p be your next revelation.

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There seems to be a couple of dead photodiodes on that sensor. Is it just me? It is most obvious in the helicopter shot. During the first second, a red speck is visible behind the actor’s neck (after that it’s too light), and throughout the whole clip, a gray one, just right of the center…

But anyway, thank you, Vincent, for this whole project. I am convinced it has inspired many people, given them the desire to step in the video bandwagon. People who would otherwise have seen the video capability of the camera as merely a necessary marketing move…

Oh, and yes, Canon, 24fps would be great!

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Well I finally got an encode of the video to work at 24 FPS or 23.976 to be more precise! It actually worked very well!

I encoded the file to lossless wma audio at 16 bit 44 Khz and I did 100% quality with wmv9 advanced profile.

The video was indistinguishable from the original and the audio was lossless. What is interesting is that the bit rate was almost identical to the .mov file at 40 mbps for audio and video.

I was able to play the file easily with PowerDVD 8(with sound) once I converted it. PowerDVD also reported that the FPS was 24.

It may require one extra step to get 24 FPS but atleast it is an option?

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I need 24fps firmware update please!

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24p will make such a difference because of that film look.
please canon, give us that

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So when will we see the completed video in actual 1080p?

I know for sure that would look amazing, the downscaled video doesn’t do it justice heh

Very nice job, can’t wait for the camera. Pre-ordering now sounds like a good idea to me.

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Canon, ADD 24p.

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Canon, give us 24p as well as the full control of aperture, shutter and exposure. People would not simply pay 3 times more just to get these on your top-of-the-line 1ds! You may want to throw in a little better AF too.

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Another voice in favor of 24p– in a nutshell, it would allow the video taken with the 5d II to have that more cinematic / artistic look and feel, and for a great many people to take the video feature more seriously. With 24p, there’s absolutely no doubt this camera will be a game changer.

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Please add or enable 24p to the 5D Mk II. That’s my vote.

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Canon, if you listen, we need 24 fps on your new camera!!! I have to do manual ISO. Shutter speed manual please. thanks, Arn.

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Vince:
Stunning footage. Thank you so much for releasing this.

Canon:
This camera will revolutionize the market if you add, via simple firmware work:
- 24p
- 1/48s shutter speed
- 60i for slow-motion work

Please listen to your customers. Thank you!

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24p and 1/48 shutter please, please, please!!!!
but leave 30p for action and web

Ha ah…beautiful footage, nice, thank you
Stop doing real work on laptops, they’re meant for surfing porn
plays smoothly on built by me rig… 30-34% CPU
Q6600, XP Pro x64, 8GB, Geforce 8600
Quicktime 7.5.5

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24p of course but Canon you should understand the implications of what this new tool is and where it will take the industry if you get the feature set right.

Vincent what you have given us is more than beautiful movie with a great camera; you’ve given us a vision.

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24p, 1/48 shutter, please.

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Thanks for showing us the raw clips!

We want 24p please!

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Many languages… just one request.

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Canon ! We kindly asking : give us “filmlook” 24p !
Thanks in advance

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Hi,

I would need 24/25fps as well.

This camera is amazing, but without 24/25p support unusable for my need

oli

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Clips are incredible!!!
Please also include 25 fps which is the european standard.
Then i’ll buy a 5D mkII.

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I will by this camera before I know what RED (Scarlett) is announcing at NAB, IF it has 24p, and only if it has 24p

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If it had 24p, i would certainly buy one…

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Please add 24P mode by firmware !

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Vincent, thanks for uploading the raw footage.

Canon, this camera would be so much better with 24p and 1/48th!! It has the capability, it just needs your go ahead! More manual video controls/options would be great too.

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Dear Canon, we needd 24p, and 25p instead of 30p for Europe.

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Canon, 24p.

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Give me 24P and I order one immediately. Stunning quality!

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23.976 (24P), or just make it a floating point number field.

Also, consider completely uncompressed video streams. Wouldn’t this take _less_ CPU and still be possible with UDMA cards? (kick ass!)

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[...] Vincent Laforet’s raw video footage (straight out of the camera)-Added 9/26/08 [...]

awesome work.
thanks so much.

and PLEASE CANON!! 24fps PLEASE!!! that would make this amazing camera perfect. being able to change the frame rate would be amazing. but 24 fps please!!!!

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Yes 24 fps MUST be included in this camera! Then I’ll buy and make movies.

Thanks Vince, keep going!

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We reali need 24P . It is not a joke

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Canon, for the love of all that is good, please include the following with the 5DmkII

MOST IMPORTANT!
- 24p!
- 1/48th shutter speed!
- Manual, or at least optional shutter speed controls (a few key fixed rates), 1/48th being the most important to accompany 24p for a “film” look.

Less important, but would be FANTASTIC to have!
- Other fps support, like 25p. If you put variable shutter control, even 10, 15, 20 fps would be great. This is useful with long shutters to create undercranked film shots. This is used in film all the time, Gladiator and Saving Private Ryan are good examples of it.

Many thanks, I will become a Canon evangelist if you include these features! If you can add these features, you will revolutionize photography and film making… Exciting times!

Nordin Rahhali

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CANON please add 24P to this camera!

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Forget the 24p, I need 1200fps for slowmo!
Just kidding, I’m ordering one next monday, it’s great and will be even greater if they add 24p/25p.
Were at the Photokina but couldn’t get my hands on it, so crouwdy, it’s gonna be a topseller!

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WE NEED 24P. Period.

Canon-do you want the 5dMKII to be the best choice camera for people to buy? Add 24p and it will be, without question.

The Nikon D90 has 24p, so should Canon.

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Amazing footage! Please add the 24p capabilities!!

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While you’re at it, 1080p+720p would give this camera a lot more flexibility for those of us wanting to shoot longer clips or smaller file sizes that don’t need the full 1080p quality.

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Canon, even simple consumer level HV20/HV30 have 24P. You must make 24p standard with any decent level video. Independent filmmakers are relying on you.

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yeah, my math was off… raw video would be kind of difficult until about Sandisk Uber-Extreme 300 MB/s or so

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dear CANON

give us 24p PLEASE!!! we all know you can do it!

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Want 25P for Pal please

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25P or 24P please Canon. Then this would be perfect and you’ll sell huge amounts - credit crunch or not.

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okey. canon, 24p its the only way for me to buy this thing.

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Canon. 24p please!!!

Vincent. I’m lovin’ your stuff from the 5DMII, thanks for sharing it with all of us.

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Twenty four and twenty five frames a second please Canon.
That will ensure sails to a whole lot more people - Film maker types and Europeans who have been waiting for a moving pictures camera that can take high end glass at a breakthrough price point

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I’m a big Canon fan who has been waiting for the 5D forever.

PLEASE give us 24p and more manual controls in video mode! Please!

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PRRRRRRETY PLLLLLLLEASE

Give me (us) 24 and 25 fps with full shutter and aperture control.

I had a meeting last night (here in my native South Africa - PAL country) with our small DV production and Indie outfit. While we have 2x H1s and 4x A1s, we had a lot of controversial discussion about our workflow, getting 30fps into the native 24f standard.

Yes “1000 Points” you can down-pitch the 30fps to 24fps via Vegas, Cineform, PP, etc., but that is hardly the point. 1/48 vs 1/60 shutter is what is needed to get the motion of the cinematic ‘feel’ across, and that is the point.

We will purchase a lot of these cams if we can get this workflow issue sorted out. Albeit the images produced from this cam being truly amazing, it can be better with better control and lower framerate.

Vincent, KUDOS

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Canon
24p would be great!

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Ok, all in canon “♪ Dear Canon, 24p plzzz…♫”

> ‘canon’ as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(music)

One more thing : great vids&pics !

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Please Canon, give us 24p and full manual exposure control in video mode. Thanks.
And thanks Vincent for this piece of art.
toby

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we want 24p…we want 25p for PAL….we want 720p….we want everything manual!!!!

It’s just a matter of firmware upgrade canon !!!!

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Oh, man, this quality is, I have no words for this…..Amazing!

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please please, add 24fps, and if possible add a “flexible frame per second” dream huh?

I also hope for “dynamic AF” — focus on any position of my choice.

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Ok, all in canon :”♪ Dear Canon, give us 24p plzzz… ♫”

(canonmusic)

One more thing : great vids/pics !

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Canon….PLEASE give us 24p! I can’t understand why we even have to ask in the first place!

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Awesome stuff. Vincent, you are the Man.
25P please for us Pal guys. What ever maual controls possible of the video and audio would be a big bonus. I am sure Canon’s competitors will be thinking along these lines.

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CANON - As an Industry Professional in film and television for over 20 years, adding 24p functionality to your ground breaking camera will greatly expand your market potential and sales. It is an absolute MUST for anyone working at a professional level. Canon, become the leader of this new revolution! Add 24p!

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Show me the 24P…….. Please. And independent Manual exposure control.

One more time….

Show me the 24P…….. Please. And independent Manual exposure control.

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24fps would be awesome!

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Vincent, it is so great that you are drawing attention to the need for 24p on this amazing camera.

You all know how I feel about it, but here is my letter to Canon requesting 24p support:

http://prolost.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-letter-to-canon.html

And here is a discussion of the importance of manual shutter control:

http://prolost.blogspot.com/2008/09/reverie.html

Please Canon, make this camera THE indispensable filmmaker’s tool. There’s a revolution happening in digital cinema, and you could be at the center of it.

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29.97 fps
25.00 fps
23.976 fps

Manual Shutter, ISO and Aperture.

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We need 24p. Nuff said.

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29.97 fps
25.00 fps
23.976 fps

Manual Shutter, ISO and Aperture.

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24p is a must-have for any serious videographer in europe. Canon, please implement it!

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Canon….We need 24p! PLEASE!

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Manual Shutter
Manual ISO
Manual Aperture.

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I would love 24P. It would make my workflow go so much easier!
Even better would be a variable from rate with a 24, 30, 60 and 120FPS (for slow motion) setting for a maximum burst of even 1 minute would be fine.

That would convince me to give up any thoughts on RED.
1/48 shutter would also be good.

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For this to be useful for my wedding customers it must shoot PAL compatible video, otherwise i’ll look an idiot.

Please allow PAL recording.

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Adding 24p, 25p, and full manual control for the video would just allow this camera to be a legend just as the original 5D.

As long as you are in the firmware thing, PLZ allow us to have more than 3 images in exposure bracketing and with more than +/- 2EV. It’s just very important when making beautiful HDR ! This camera seems to have a very beautiful image quality and we would not be able to use all the capacity with HDR ? too bad…

To make it simple :

- video : 24p, 25p
- stills : 9 frames +/-5EV for AEB

Merci beaucoup Vincent pour ce superbe petit film et pour tous les efforts qui ont permis d’en voir quelques bouts en 1080.

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Frame rate other than 24 frame/s would compromise this widely accepted method of conversion, and make it difficult for film producers to access international markets.

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Please Canon, give us 24fps, also 25fps: its a software tweak, right?

Alos 1/48 shutter speed + manual control.

If you can’t do 60fps at 1080p…

Then give us 60fps at 720p ! - this would be phenomenal for action and sports shots.

Thanks for listening, - M

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Canon these guys need it. Give it to them please! 24P,24P,24P…..

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In my opinion the video feature on the 5D Mark II
Should feature:
-30p and 24p frame selection
-Manual exposure control

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Great stuff!

1-30 variable would be amazing.. And maybe a plug-in sync option for an external audio recorder?

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Canon, please give us 24p AND 25p

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Wonderful clips!

Canon - PLEASE update the camera with 24 and 25p

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I personally would prefer 25p since I own HV20 and it is quite likely that I would want to integrate video from these two cams.

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Right now I’m using the D90, it has 24p. I really wish I had manual shutter too and could set it to 1/48th, but it works for me. The 5D MKII obviously offers superior image quality on the video, but its virtually useless to me without 24p! If the 5D MKII offered 24p and manual control I’d almost certainly buy it- keep in mind I have been a Nikon user for over a decade and would need to buy a whole bunch of Canon lenses and such… still, I’d buy it!

PLEASE do a firmware upgrade so it will do 24p and manual shutter!

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24p, 25p, 1/48 shutter!!!

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Félicitation Vincent,excellent travail!

Canon, 24fps is a deal maker/breaker for me!

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24P! definitely!!

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I already blown away by its capability, but if add 24fps and PAL, it will send me above the cloud.

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CANON - We need 24p and manual shutter control or at least the ability to lock shutter to 1/48sec.

Apart from this: amazing camera and thanks fpor your effort Vincent

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24,25p with shutter control for xmas please, for new years 48,50 and 60 at half res would be great.

My birthday is in January, so you might also want to get working on scripting for the camera.

Nobody has managed to port chdk to dslr yet. Carrying boat batteries and a laptop to do hdr time lapse is pretty suck.

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http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Porting_the_CHDK

If anyone is interested on getting in on the porting effort.

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NO 24P = NO BUY AND WAIT FOR RED SCARLET

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We need 24p and manual shutter control in the 5D mkII… you can change the game.

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We do need 24p !!!!!

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The images this camera is producing are nothing short of amazing! But they still look like video! All we need is 24p and 1/48th shutter, PLEASE CANON!!

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I just bought the old canon 5d but would buy this new one tomorrow if it had 148 shutter and 24p

thanks

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I believe that not only 24p but also the ability to shoot either in manual mode or at least with SOME control is a must, Av or Tv modes even with auto ISO would be the least I could ask for from this camera (for now).
WE NEED TO HAVE CONTROL we are creative people not uncle Bobs (sorry uncle Bob)that snap away video clips for fun.

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We need more than 24p !

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24P is a must not a should
images of this quality can easely transferred to film so 24p is the format

for EU BROADCAST also 25p should be nice

but first of all 24p

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Please Canon add 24P in the final firmware and thank you very much Vincent for your good work, we really appreciate.

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Yes, please Canon.
A 24p (and for us euro 25p) option would take the camera to another level. The same goes for shutter control which makes a lot of difference.

We want it!

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Please please Canon make the 5D 24p 1/48 shutter.
I’d buy one tomorrow.

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Canon!

1.
I want a display that flips out…..
How do you shoot video with this puppy and beeing able to frame your shoots when the camera is not right in front of your eyes, and not on a tripod…. you will need a very flexible framing assistant.

2.
I want something to carry it with while shooting video when I’m moving.

3.
I want to be able to set different framerates between 3fps sec and 30fps (60fps)

4.
I want to be able to lock exposure.

5.
I want AF that works if enabled.

6.
You probably have to create a new form-factor for it as well

X.
If you do not fix… (at least) these issues then I probably want the upcoming RED DSMC or Scarlet

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Oh and add 25p too for us euro people.

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Looks grat, thinking of replacing it with my 5D. I might give up on vaiting for Red Scarlet, only if new firmware would have 24p and programable shutter?
Best,
Ivan

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Canon, please add 24p and 1/48th shutter.
Otherwise, it would be a “con” in many reviews.

Vincent, the clips are great! Thanks for sharing!

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When I heard about the 5D MkII’s video feature, I was very excited… When I heard it was 30P only I was v disappointed– as a UK based production company 25FPS is *essential*, and 24FPS is a nice bonus. 30FPS is completely useless. I’ll wait for the next camera to support this (unless Canon surprises us with a firmware..)

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We MUST have 24p! Otherwise, the video functionality is practically useless to many of us.

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Downloading the raw footage as we speak.

To Canon. The 24fps is a must have. You want to see people making some seriously amazing movies with the 5DMKII?! Add 24fps and many movies are going to read in the credits “Shot with 5DMKII”.

Thanks!
Szabi

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24P support please!
and more control over the video settings.

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Please enable 24p, Canon. This will be my dream camera if you make it happen.

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By the way, DPreview.com has lots of sample photos from this camera. And a couple of RAW videoclips for download as well.

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G’day mate.

Calling in from Australia. I do a bit of photo/video work and really stoked for this camera, but agree with the above about the 24P mode.

Come on Cannon - why not?

- Michael
Perth, Australia

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To those wondering about the 24p issue… 24p stands for 24 frames per second, captured “progressively” or as one complete frame. The film you see in theaters runs at 24 frames per second. Video captured at this speed (which is slower than traditional video), has what some believe to be a more film-like appeal than normal video. Also, for those looking to shoot a movie using video cameras (to save tons of money), and then transfer it to film for theaters, having a camera that shoots at the same frame rate as traditional film cameras is very important. While 30p may be great for web or television, it is horrible for transferring to film. 24p transfers perfectly to 24 fps film, 30p is a problem because there are 6 extra frames every second that can’t be transfered 1:1 to film.

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24fps at 1080p
60fps / 120fps at 720p (or 1080p

And I will buy!

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24p plz htx

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24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p 24p

If no 24p then I won’t buy 5Dm2 bcs that means I need to change my NLE to deal with 30p. Not to mention I need to acquire pro-audio equipment.

But with 24p, I will pre-order it as soon as 24p is confirmed, Canon (Malaysia) is just beside my office!

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24p is no problem, we WILL get it!

If Canon doesn’t make the firmware for it, somebody else will hack it and do it for us, just relax…

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24p with manual shutter.
60p with 720p is a super bonus that would kill all prosumer camcorder available in the market today (yes, even 5Dm2 doesn’t have pro audio).

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Please allow 24p…

…and 24p please!

thxvm!

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24p and 1/48th please!

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we love the ‘VIDEO’ so much Vincent!!
come on Canon!… D700 will come with bigger CMOS and 24- 60p as soon as possible.

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I’m considering buying it, but not without 24p ! This is a must have feature, even low end cameras does it nowadays.

Come on, if you can go as fast as 30fps, why not 24 ? And also, let’s give us a manual control over shutter angle…

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Great camera, but will only consider buying it with a 24p mode…
Canon please do not ignore your customers!
Thanks

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24p is needed and I wouldn’t mind a 60fps mode either…

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Please add 24p and 25p and 1/48 sec shutter setting please.

This camera will be a must buy for me with these features.

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wow! great Job Vincent! Please ask Canon when the will implement 24p to the Camera. I think 24p is the future.

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24p PLEASE!! also shutter speed and aperture control while filming!! PLEASE PLEASE!

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30p is great for computer/internet, but when it comes to deliverable standards 24p will make all the difference to amatuer or professional users.

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Full resolution 5D Mark II videos…

Canon has made available three full resolution (1080p) video files available for download. The video was shot by Vincent Laforet. Go over here to drop Canon a comment that we also need 24 and 25 fps instead of just the 30fps. I’m drooling all over my …

Estonia is crying for 24P!

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24p pls

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No 24p but only 30? Come on, you must be joking…

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please…24p…please oh please…

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25P and manual exposure and it’ll put my Panasonic DVX100 to shame and I love that camera

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please 24P !

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24P please!

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need 24P,25P

and manual control of ISO, shutter Speed and Apuarture!!!!

PLZ~thx canon

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24, 25P and manual shutter control Canon

KThnxBai

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To Canon Jap,US,Eur !!

Please add 24P!!! My already pre-ordered 5DmarkII would be my companion for many years to come so I realy NEED 24P (25P)!!
Manuel settings would be nice too.
THANKS for listening.

Thanks Vincent for charing .

Rune

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24p and 1/48th please. And make all Settings manual please.

Thanks Canon

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very very nice stuff. now i have seen the raw stuff and not the 4mbs stuff from before, i have to state that my main concern is still there. in the helicopter shot look at the interior of the chopper just behind the talent’s head. the area which is a graduation from black is very messy due to the h264 compression, and the graduation is not even so much in comparison to some of the other shots in the film. i’d particularly like to see the raw version of the shot where the male talent is looking at camera (just after when the male talent drops the flowers). It’s a shame and ironically if there was more grain/noise tha banding compression would not be so bad ! obviously the camera is capable, just that the h264 makes it absolutely not suitable for commercial production.

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We need 25p plus 24p. Very important!

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Canon

This blog and this movie have convinced 4 people I know, me included, to buy this camera. NONE of us have shot any video before, but clearly this is the “game changer” that Vincent says it is. All of us fully intent to start experimenting with video once the camera arrives.

Clearly 24p is important to people familiar with video. It also seems like an relatively easy thing to do.

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24p mode please Canon. Thanks

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Rudy! Rudy! R-…

I mean, 24p! 24p! 24p!

And more manual controls please!

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full manual control + 24p and 30p

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Dear Canon

Does any manufacturer sell an NTSC camcorder in Europe? Of course not, It doesn’t make sense, does it?.

EU needs 24/25p. In a 50Hz world, 30p and 1/60 shutter will render the video useless.

730 million EU users will find no use for the 5Dmk2 video.

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Absolutely Stunning Work… Amazing!!

Please add the 24p to make it Unbeatable!! Ciao_bw

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Hey Canon, how about more frame rate options,
especially 24p, with manual shutter to boot, and u got yourself a new customer

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Dear Canon

Please enable 24p mode!

thanks

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canon - 24fps!!! -> i would buy 2 bodys. this would be amazing.

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Dear Canon

Please 24p 1/48th sec please

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If this camera had 24P I would buy it for sure.
24P Please!

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Thanx a lot for these files Vincent. looks Great.

Dear Canon please 24fps.
Dear Everybody, please think about Europe, ask for 25fps !!

PLEASE 25 FPS ! and SHUTTER CONTROL

benjamin

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To Canon,
I wanted the 5DII until I realized it doesn’t record in 24P, and doesn’t allow full manual controls during video recording.

Please add 24P, 1/48th shutter speed, and full manual controls.

Thanks!

- Robert

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to vincent:

thank you very much for your work on this and for sharing the results.

to canon:

an option to capture video in 24p is very important to a lot of us (and we wouldn’t mind the side benefit of smaller files, either). while 30p is great for many uses, especially capturing action, 24p affects the look of our imagery in dramatic ways, just as, eg, changing aperture does. we want to be able to choose both parameters.

for what it is worth, i teach visual anthropology at a major university. the 5dmkII looks very appealing for our uses in terms of size and especially low light capability. but i have been advising students for a long time now to look for video cameras which are capable of shooting in 24p. even documentaries can sometimes benefit from the distinctive appearance of 24p, and from the viewers’ associations with that look.

the camera looks like an amazing tool. 24p would make it even more attractive.

thank you
chris brown

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Dear Canon,

Let the 5d MkII have optional 24p mode (with 1/48th)! Would make a difference!

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wow great video and impressive performance from the 5DII. But yes 24 fps 24 fps 24 fps. And is exposure lockable? Even though the video is great, it looks like autoexposure is going on, and it tends to do it in steps, not super smoothly (although smoother than the d90)

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Dear Canon

I need 24p mode, too!
And also, HardDisk version, please.

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24Pp please!!!

…and what about an option to start/stop recording via remote!?!?

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Freakin’ hell. And still no mention of European 25fps. This is a crime against humanity. Seriously, the abilities of this new 5D video could impact the world of visual anthropology big time. All the little countries within Europe with national film funds and boards and no way to broadcast or show 30 fps on national channels. We could make documentaries in never dreamed of spontaneous settings interviews with no light setups intimidating the subject. Doe Canon see the aspect of creating a whole new generation of films but only if they could see the need of additional 24/25 fps potential.
This will or could change the history of film making even from environmental viewpoint of using less energy (for lightning and grip truck and the people to set it up) to get a job done - but wait there’s a whole new generation of filmakers who can make the world see thing never dreamed of. To see inside the nations core with moving images with sound you know. Imagine all the impromptu moving scenes you have used to see from the different parts of the world from famous photographs.

Photographers travel a lot, even just travelers who carry a DSLR need the ability to switch between 24/25/30 fps (for 50/60 Hz AC flickering or depending on potential broadcast standard) depending on where they are or where they are from.

If Canon dreams of selling this cam big time for the ever growing news media segment the cam must be able to shoot 25fps in Europe and 60 in US and 24fps for cinema. Business wise there are funds in agencies to send out reporters or maybe just photog to the core of events and bringing back few photographs along with broadcast standard framerate footage - how couldn’t they see the potential here. It just isn’t the indi markets for 24/25fps there is a whole new business opportunity in news/events and visual anthropology/ documentary field. Is the news market too small? Are there not enough reporters out there who could take a priceless footage from the lifetime events from the focal points of wars without risking the life of full size cam operators, whatever. The firmware update to 24/25 fps could save tremendous amounts of energy could save some lives and at the end it could save the world and free Willy. Do we see here the potential that Canon is holding baack.

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We need 24p, and 25p additionally for Europe and professional use!

Great work Vincent The Woods !

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Oh yeahhhh !!!
as filmaker I need :

24p

as eurpean I need :

25p

and please pleae please shutter control !!

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Thank you Vincent!!! Dear Canon, please add 24p, 25p would also be very useful.

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24p please and 25p too!

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Yes, 24p please!! All the latest LCD TVs are getting on the bandwagon for supporting 24p as well!!

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25P for EU customer please.

I suspect that NAB will be interesting for the real “video” camera version. I hope the 5D MkII signals the technology that will be in Canons new video camera line. Looking forward to NAB09!

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24 p and 1/48th please. variable framerates would be fantastic, think 1 to 60 fps…

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Canon,

24pが使えるようにしてください！
ヨーロッパ用の25pもお願いします！

please enable 24p!
please also make 25p available for Europe!

Vincent, thank you so much for sharing these stunning videos - I had anticipated some months ago, that there would be DSLRs with video within the year, hoping that the new 5D would be the first to include it - until Nikon released the D90. But we all know how that turned out to look like So it seems, the 5DmkII is after all the first DSLR to implement video capabilities in a serious manner. And as your videos show, even beyond what I and probably many others would have hoped for! I’m very anxious for whatever you might show us in the next days and beyond that
keep up the amazing work!

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Excellent and fabolous! I am thrilled Vincent, great work!

To Canon: Please add the 24p and the 25p to make the life easier.

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Wow what a great movie and what a great camera!

Dear Canon please let the user decide at what fps he wants to shoot at! I am from switzerland, so I need 25fps!

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Canon, please enable 24p! It’s cruicial to make the videos look even better than this!

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Wow, fantastic! Thanks!

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This is just absolutely beautiful.

A nice Canon camera is on my auxiliary purchases list.

Add some **24p and 1/48th shutter speed** and this would go to the top of my purchase list, no question. I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

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I believe enough people have succinctly outlined the reasons for wanted 24p/25p and manual controls on the 5D MKII. They’re very, very right.

Canon, while you already have a significant foothold in the semi-pro DV industry, you could literally create a brand new assortment of users in one fell swoop. Take it seriously and add those features. The benefits to brand loyalty will be phenomenal and the word of mouth will (like the HV20/30) be a very, very large snowball.

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Please add 24p mode & 1/48 shutter!

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I’ve been shooting Canon HV20 24P for over a year now at the 1/48th shutter speed - incredible stuff, and without the 24P feature, I never would have purchased the Canon HV20. Without 24P as a standard feature on a Canon D-SLR, I’ll stick to my Nikon.. point being: by goodness, I cross my fingers, pleading for Canon to implement 24P at a proper 1/48th shutter speed!

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It’s a very important technical need, so we can use the 5dmk2 easily in Europe and give out productions a more professional look.

Thank you, and greetings from Spain.

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Canon,

24p is the top required feature for serious production. And while you are at it: 25p would be very much appreciated too.

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24fps is a must for filmmakers.
And 25fps would be nice for us euro guys too.
C´mon Canon!!!

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Canon-

Please include the option for 24P as an upgrade to the firmware!

Thank you! I’m very excited for this camera!

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Canon, please add:

-24p
-manual audio control for the external microphon

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Another vote for 24p & 1/48 shutter. Would buy this camera in a heartbeat if it had that feature.

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Please CANON, 24p and 1/48th shutter speed mode is mandatory to the firmware.
I need you to do a 24 jpg/sec photo capture mode too, it will be even better for video enthousiats. tkx

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Great footage! Thanks!

To bad the camera can’t shoot in 24P. Guess it’s going to be a RED Scarlet for me then.

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24P, *please* Canon. And while your’e at it, 60P in lower resolution.

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Please, please, please…

Canon, give us 24p and 1/48th !!!
(and why not also 25p and 1/50th in Europe…)

Vincent, thanks a lot for the originals “RAW” clips !

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I would prefer that Canon support both 24p and 30p with full, independent manual controls.

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I’ll probably buy one if they included 25p.

If no, I won’t and I think a lot of people will feel the same way!

30p is no use in Europe.

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…and manual audio, pretty needed to be able to use audio at all. Link it to the back or front wheel via a CF, put audio staples on overlay on the display etc.

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ill buy one in a second when they make one 24p with an adjustable shutter

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Canon, please add 29.97, 25.00, 24.00 and 23.976 fps support. Just 24p is not enough. For technical reasons, 30.00 is not ideal for editing, because the moment you want to burn a DVD, ghosting will be introduced in the footage by most editors. We need all the proper frame rates, exposure lock, and shutter control. A “cinemode” look wouldn’t hurt either.

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Hi Canon,

To reiterate what pretty much everyone on here seems to be saying, while the video mode on the 5D MkII looks stunning, and is an amazingly welcome addition, the ability to have that little bit more control over the frame rate (ideally, anything from 1-30fps, but if not, options of 24 and 25 fps) and the shutter speed (anything from the frame rate up, ideally)

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Awesome work. If it helps 24fps would be great!

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control of the shutters speeds / fps please Canon

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I been a motion picture director and still photographer for 40 years, I am shooting a project in Africa 2009. Make this camera 24P, 1/48th shutter speed, and full manual controls and I will use it on this project.

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Yes! 24p (or 25p) please! Doing this 24p would let me use it directly on assignments. 30p means i have to downgrade and re-process the video to edit it with my normal 24/25p material. And ofcourse things like synching with lights will be off on this so its not really a good solution.

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24p
Manual Shutter
Manual ISO
Manual Aperture.

and you are first to market with a world changing product . The first of many I hope you should sell zillions.

Jon

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24p 24p 24p PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

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Another vote for 5 frame bracketing and 24p here!

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Please, canon, make a 24P avaible!

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Thanks for doing this Vincent, your stuff looks really nice. I’m working with the letus 35mm adapator on a Sony EX1, and thats working really good for me.
But I want a 5D(or whatever they come out with that gives all the possibilities from that camera). I just need Canon to make it right! Let me set the framerate, resolution, exposure etc. Just all the stuff that I’m used to on a videocamera.
Btw. someone might already mentioned it, but if you move your focus lock to the * button exposure lock is moved to the shutter button. Press it halfway down and you’ll see the * in the viewfinder(at least that’s the way it’s been so far with Canon slr).

Again, thank you for posting all this Vincent, and Canon; just give us what we want.

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Indeed we need 24p if the video mode on this camera should be more than a gimmick.

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Please, here in Europe 30p is no use. We need 25p or /and 24p.

Apple changed the world with the first personal computer but LET others lead the revolution with the PC.

Hope you listen.

Thank you!

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24 fps would be perfect!

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24P Please.

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vote for 24p. 98% of EU TVs can do 24p/60hz, anyways (not to mention EU Blu-rays are 24p, save for the extras). stop the 24/25p divide!

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24p is a must and could be a deal breaker for me in getting this camera and also recomending it to others in the industry.

please canon add 24p and hopefully you will allow us to have 25p as well. these things are in the scheme of things and will bring your company into greatness by doing so.

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Canon: Please add 24P and 25P to EOS 5D Mark II.

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Please add 24p, Canon.

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I’m about to jump ship from Nikon to Canon for this camera. I have lots of Nikon glass, so this is a big move, AND I NEED:
-> manual control over Shutter/Aperture/ISO in video mode
-> 24p + 1/48th or 1/50th exposure time

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Great looking shots. For a commercial.

24p means I would immediately purchase this camera. CANON, listen to your customers!!

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Crazy seeing this out cry from end users. It’s awesome…. If Canon ignores the very people that buy their products, this will show the arrogance and absolute disregard to what creative users etc need. If so than it only further more substantiates what RedOne founder Jim Jannard has said about these over bloated companies that hold back technology to control forward progression. The technology trickle game they play way to often, for way to many years.

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The blacks look very good for the low light level. Downloading the clips to import into the Avid and watch on a calibrated monitor.

I see a new Canon Camera in my future, just waiting for the ability to shoot in 24p.

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Something wonderful is happening to photography. Big cracks have appeared in the old-school platforms as the line between stills and motion cameras gets blurred.

It’s now a race to produce a good-enough motion camera, with SLR optics and sufficient manual control for real photography.

Without 24fps, Canon are sending out a mixed-message: “We sort of get it, but deep-down we don’t really get it”

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24p is a must with manual controls

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Please Canon, 24p support will make the 5D mkII the camera of the moment….ARE YOU LISTENING???

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Canon!
24p…manual shutter and aperture…
if not, it’ll be Nikon!
(please! I love your 35 L!)

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Add me to the list of people wanting:
24 _and_ 25 fps (I live in a PAL land)
Manual settings of shutter speed, aperture and ISO.
With those additions I will for certain buy this camera and a whole bunch of Canon lenses.

The footage I’ve seen so far is stunning in image quality even when compressed through H264 - a real feat. I just brought the heli shot into After Effects and with the Color Finesse plug-in could push the look of the image pretty far in various directions without compression artifacts popping out. However at only 30 fps the video mode is for most purposes useless to me.

Thanks to Mr. Laforet for all his hard work shooting the film and making all this stuff available.

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24 and 25 fps support would transform the 5D MK II to a perfect tool!

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I’d add 24 and 25 fps too - I’m a vfx op in dublin and it’d be really handy to use the 5d as a scouting and reference gathering camera but if we could add on manual shutter support we cold use this for doing test shots too! This would be automatically ditch the 30d and upgrade territory.

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Canon.. 24p please! Vincent fabulous work! Thank you for giving us a look into just what the video end of this camera will do. I’m very much looking forward to the stills. Oh.. and Canon… 24p PLEASE!!

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24p AND 25p please! This will make the camera even more versitile!

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In addition to the 24p necessity, I’d also like to see the ability to do Time Lapse (really, could it be that difficult to implement?) as well as the ability to trigger the camera in live-view video mode with a shutter cable/pocket wizard gizmo. That would be further breaking the mold…

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have 5D will go for 5DII only if 24P and 25P is available
great if you can provide 720P with 48P/50P/60P

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24p ! 24p ! 24p ! And how about a fps range from 1 to 60, or 120 ?
Come on Canon !!! That 1080p DSLR deserves a new name by itself. Why don’t you call it the world’s first HDSLR, where the H stands for Hybrid and HD…. And don’t forget to copyright that new name I just gave you and send me a 5D Mark II as payment for suggesting this cool new name !

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Wonderful !

Astonoushing !

Incredible,but true !

Thanks a lot for sharing !
But, yes,we need 24p !

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24/25ppppppppppppplease!
Otherwise no upgrade.

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Considering the cinematic quality possible with the full-frame sensor and lenses, 24p seems like an obvious and must-have feature. The camera can do 30p, so the bandwidth is there. Go for it Canon! (and thanks Vincent for bringing our voices together).

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24fps at 1080p
60fps / 120fps at 720p / 1080p PLEASE Canon!

And I will buy this month!

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Canon, please give us 24p.
Vincent, amazing work!

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Canon,
please add 29.97, 25.00, 24.00 and 23.976 fps support, and I’ll buy your camera tomorrow.

Edoardo Nicoletti
Eido Lab srl - Italy

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Canon,

Nikon D90 does 24p. Canon does not. Nikon’s video is not perfect, but can be improved in firmware.

Also count on every Nikon camera to be realeased from now on, to include 24p, with better codecs, and more options.

30p is a deal breaker to anyone in the video world, either amateur, indie or professional.

Canon will lose ALL sales in this HUGE worldwide market to Nikon if Canon doesn’t include 24p.

24p, 1/48 and manual controls over exposure. That’s enough.

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Unless your doing film out, 30p is fine. For video, web, 30p works just fine. If you want to do time lapse, then the Canon TC-80N3 Timer remote controller will do this, you would have to take the images bring them into AE and make QT’s. It is not a full fledged video camera yet. I for one have it on my list to use instead of all the other video equipment I carry in my travels, including a 35mm adapter to get the DOF on a video camera. This camera may well replace that, only a bit skeptical on the audio portion of the camera, as to how well it would stand-up to interview audio work.

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Please, Canon, give us 24p AND 25p!!!

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Nice work!

If Canon ad 24p and manual shutter I would by this camera emediatly, even though all my lenses are Nikon.

If Canon won’t do it, Nikon will…

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24fps, please… pretty please?
25fps would be very nice too.

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Canon this camera is good and ready to be great. Please make it the real game changer with 24p.
Vincent thanks for taking the lead on this!

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Yes, all video cameras should have a 24p mode. Having 23.98 and 29.97 both would be even better!

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wow I have been following this whole thing since its first release last weekend and all I can say is I am so impressed by the quality of this.

Canon please give us 24p

I cant wait for this camera to ship

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Canon, please add 24p. And manual shutter if possible.

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24P would be fantastic. I might even buy a second if they made this available. I hope you’re listening Canon.

Sean

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Sorry, can’t edit the post, but: Canon, please make this camera the greatest by adding 1/48th shutter speed in video mode too, please.

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Canon: we NEED 24p! and manual control. Please make it a firmware update

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Yes, 24p as well as 25p for PAL countries along with the equivalent of an 180 degree shutter would be a very important feature that would make the 5d mark II a very interesting camera for many (independent) filmmakers.

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24p is definitely a must ! Canon, please listen to your customers !

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Give us 24p and 25p in Europe!!!!!!!!!

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24p and 1/48th shutter speed, and this camera will be as close to perfect as can be. I want one. Now.

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CANON! Give me 25p or 24p and I will give you MY MONEY!

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Great Footage. I agree with everyone else here, this camera should have 24p and 1/48 shutter and full control over exposure.

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Dear Canon,

I’m a little boy waiting for Christmas. My daddy has told me that I’ll have finally my full frame camera. And because the body of the 1d is way too big for my little hands, he’ll give me the other, you know what I’m talking about. Also, he said that 30p stream is tooooo big for my old laptop and besides, he don’t like the look of 30p. I don’t know nothing, neither I know why, I learnt that from the Vincent comment. Please, give me the 24p, otherwise daddy won’t buy my camera! Buaaah!

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thanks vinc
looking forward to the scripting ideas

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I’m new to video (other than using the traditional video cam to record the kiddies). Don’t know what my requirements are, but would love to have the option of doing 24p if i grow into it… current 5d owner and i love it!

Canon, please add 24p and whatever is required for the PAL folks

By the way, my off the shelf iMac plays these videos perfectly without stuttering even at fullscreen and double size. i was able to drop into iMovie and make edits without any hitches. Buy a mac

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adding my voice to the requests for 24p, manual exposure control and control of shutter speed in video mode.

It’s ‘the way forward’.

Jus.

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Canon, if you whant to have the biggest selling machine in the market, please include de 24p!

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24P, 25P for europe and manual shutter

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Please!! PLEASE!!! have a 24fps option on this camera. it will then finally give this camera and the lenses you will shoot with justice. and it will then REALLY set a new standard in thi sindustry.

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ATT. Canon - WE NEED 24P please
Great work - stunning

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I would also like to see 24p and manual controls. I’d opt for the manual controls first.

Is the HDMI live during HD Video recording for viewing on an HD HDMI equiped monitor or for capture by an HDMI capable capture device?

In regards to the USB connection. Can the camera record directly to an USB hard drive? Does it mean I can record directly to a USB Pen Drive?

In your video, you shot a lot at night. Would you have been able to shoot in the daylight situation and achieved a narrow depth of field having the HD video look as stunning (ie… very professional).

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24P & 25P and manual control in video mode is a must have in the next firmware update.

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Hey Canon,

You know, if you give me that 24p, I’ll buy a 135/2. Deal?

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another vote here: if it’s to complicated to implement flexible settings to have all- 23.97, 24, 25, 29.97, 30 interlaced/progressive.

then if we have to choose the only ONE- it MUST BE 24P (1/48th shutter). thanks in advance

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I totally agree to the comment above:
24P, 25P for europe and manual shutter

This would highly increase the option on investing in a 5D. I would love to stay with canon because of the lenses I own. But an 24P option is just too tempting, at Canons competitors so far…

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24p please! It is a dealbreaker.

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Well done….

Try using VLC media player (free download) to play these clips. Starts much faster and uses 20% on each of the four cores on a quad core Q6600 instead of 80% on a single core in QuickTime.

For the photographers that are not interested in video, see this as a very fast 30fps high quality 2 Mpixel camera. Single frames seems so good they can easily be used for prints etc.
24p would be good…

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Amazing quality images. Please Canon give us 24p.

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1. 25p for europe
2. manual control
3. less compressed format

Do this Canon and I will buy the new 5D and a lot of lenses!!!

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Vincent, very well written as always. I’m ready to purchase this however I still have my 720p JVC and my next step will only go to a 24fps body. Why buy a 30fps now when you know a 24fps will in fact be dev’ by someone else if need be.
Thanks

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24P i want it now!

This camera is epic.

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Another person who thinks 24P would be a good idea and trivial to implement in a firmware upgrade.

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24p and 25p please!

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24p - om jag får be!

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This project and new camera have got me so wired that I haven’t been able to sleep much over the past two nights!!! But as excited as I am, I won’t buy it unless it can do 24fps. PLEASE Canon, include a firmware update!! I’m a big fan of Canon, ever since my super 8 days in the 70’s until now with my A-1 I’ve always used Canon. But without 24fps I’ll wait to see what Nikon’s next generation d90 will come up with. Again, Please Canon, don’t let us down!!!!

Win

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Please allow 24P - I can’t resample frame rates with high quality.

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24p request. It would be powerful to have it.

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Dear Canon, we want 24p, please.
And thanks, Vincent, great job.

Leon

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Thanks for the clips Vincent.Wonderful quality and great fun to watch on a big screen.

24FPS- please Canon.

Wilhelm

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There are two things needed to make me buy a 5D.

1) Several chooseable framerates, 30, 29.97, 25, 24, 23.976 frames per second are an absolute MUST HAVE for me.

2) Full manual control over all features such as shutter, aperture, white balance, etc. If i’d shoot in 24p, the only shutter speed i would accept for main operation is 1/48th.

Canon gives folks all these oportunities in photo mode, why not in video mode?

If Canon won’t go in this direction, i wouldn’t bother changing to Nikon or whoever does first.

//F

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Absolutely, 24p is essential. European 5D II models have 30p too, which is pointless.

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Be kind!!! Give us the 24p and 25p mode!

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Trop class. Je veux ce 5dII!

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Hey, id like 50p!
…but will settle for 25
…or if i must, 24p
…and then i might buy two of them! kicking my nikons out

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We really need 24p. Please

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Amazing work, with what appears to be an amazing camera…that I would purchase in a heartbeat….IF IT SHOT 24P!…I personally know 3 cats waiting for this camera to hit shelves, but ONLY if it will shoot 24P. Thanks Vincent for showcasing what this camera can do…extraordinary footage, even if it isn’t in 24P.

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Re 24p:

Canon, the need for 24p on this camera is absolute.

24p is not just an aesthetic desire for that “film” look for those of your 5DII users who are also film/video buffs or professionals. Although, frankly, that should be sufficient - 24p is a mandatory requirement for some categories of video projects.

For me, although tempting, the 5DII is simply of no use to me for my video projects. The reason is that all of my video projects are 24p. The reason for that is that YOU - Canon - introduced, indeed pioneered, the ability for me to do 24p HD projects with the consumer-level HV20 (and now HV30).

You’ve sucked me into 24p, and now are preventing me from adding, augmenting and integrating the otherwise amazing video capabilities of the 5DII with my established use of the HV20.

With the HV20/30, Canon has afforded the amazing opportunity to do high-quality HD video at my framerate of choice - 24p. Now with the 5DII, you are affording me the even more exiting and amazing opportunity to fully and affordably use the capabilities of my existing collection of 35mm Canon lenses with video.

But you are PREVENTING me from using and integrating those two capabilities together in one project. If the 5DII had 24p, I could integrate video shot with the HV20 with the unique capabilities of the 5DII. But without 24p, you’re leaving me hanging. I can’t use the two together, and so one of them is simply going to go unused.

As it stands, I may or may not buy the 5DII. I’m perfectly happy with my existing 5D. While some features of the 5DII are interesting, there’s no one of them that is immediately compelling me to upgrade. But if the 5DII added 24p as a video option, I would be running, breaking speed limits, kicking canes from under old people to get my hands on one.

A lot of the smart/enthusiastic consumers (me), semi-professionals and even many professionals that clamoured around the HV20/30 for its amazing video quality and the ability to do 24p at that price level are the SAME people who appreciate the benefits of your unique and excellent 5D. You should be REWARDING this class of user rather than frustrating them by your choice not to include 24p.

If you can fix this via firmware, it is imperative that you do so, preferably before or very shortly after the 5DII hits the shelves. If you can’t, unfortunately I think you’ll simply have made a mistake. You appear to have a professional-level 3 year cycle on the 5D series, and that’s an eternity to wait. Better options will come before that.

Thanks for reading,

Ian Hay.

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In Europe 25p would be more useful than 24p, especially if people are getting into serious post production. Although, not ideal from a film making point of view, any camera movement is limited by the rolling shutter for example, it does add a new tool to the chest.

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All this talk about needing 24p is a load of BS. Manual exposure control is far more important. I think 30p looks better. 24fps is not The Best frame rate, it is just what early film makers decided the minimum fps possible before people noticed. When people watch NTSC are they always thinking ‘oh what a shame it’s not 24fps?’.
Good lenses/sensors, are way more important than fps to make a ‘film look’. and shutter speed control aperture etc.

People should realize that film is a dieing technology, or at least will become a sub-technique, just as has happened in the photography world.
A new aesthetic standard needs to be formed. we shouldn’t blindly keep archaic formats in new technology.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/08/dminus_for_3d.html

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Please 24 AND 25 fps !!! Thanks in advance Canon…

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Yes! 24p would be lovely, thank you very much, Canon!

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More options than just 30p are definitely required! My having an European Canon HV-20 video cam which records in 25p makes it necessary!

Another things that are MUSTs: manual controls!

And getting rid of that 4GB limit which is definitely not technically founded. The 5D could simply open a second file if the shooting time exceeds 12 minutes…

Cheers,
- Don [:-]

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Of course this camera should offer 24p ( if it’s possible to add ). There is no denying that 24p psychologically appears more professional and clients will kill for it. And if you want something to look more like film and less like late night HD infomercials, it’s a must!
BTW … I’m in no way saying that your film looked like an infomercial, it looks amazing … but if it was in 24p it would look that much better and pricier. ( Again, just an illusion, but taken as a fact in this day and age )

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If the camera does not have 24p then it’s off the shopping list.

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Great stuff Vincent!!!

A selectable framerate of 1 - 50 would be great.
Also a .MOV with TIFF(zip) compression for the movie mode, that allows u to edit the native footage without loss in quality.

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24p and manual control would be great. I’m still thinking about a new cam and with these two features added (25 fps for pal user would also be great) there is no other way than the 5DMII.

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Please Canon

we also want 24p

Ok I just ask Canon for 24p in the name of everybody else

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Excelent work!!

Framerate from 1 to 30p and the ability to make timelapse movies would be fantastic!

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I was eagerly awaiting the release of this camera since I’m looking to replace my Panasonic HVX-200 with something that allows me to be more creative. Vincent’s video looks amazing, but the lack of 24P is HEARTBREAKING.

Canon, PLEASE add 24P and 1/48 second shutter. If you do, you’ve got a customer here. If not, I’m not even considering it.

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“All this talk about needing 24p is a load of BS….”

Please Pete, it is not about “the best frame rate” or what looks better! It is about recording standards in film and television industry. In europe we have 50i/25p as standard recording and broadcast format. In film 24P. This is a truth wheter you like it or not…

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I can understand the point about it being an industry standard. But we, the film makers should be pushing for what IS better, and trying to move the dinosaurs away from the arbitrary 24fps world.
I personally shoot in 30p and export in 25/30 for the client (and is broadcast as that) or edit in a 24p timeline. For me 24p doesn’t really suit video.
I am not against Canon putting it in there, but it amazes me how people think this is more important than manual exposure controls/other sensor issues.

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I would love to see 24P with this camera. It would be ground breaking. Can’t wait to have one of these!

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Canon, please listen to your customers.

1080p at 24p and fully manual control over the aperture, ISO, and Shutter while shooting video on the new Canon 5D Mark II.

Vncent - thans for doing all that you’ve done, a true inspiration!

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24p…and manual exposure. That would seal the deal.

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@Canon
24p and full manual control please.

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24/25p and 1/48th shutter (and manual control) and you’ve got 10 grand of my hard-earned cash, Canon.

Otherwise someone else is getting it. I’m serious.

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Dear Canon, I’m currently a Nikon shooter, but if this thing had 24P, that would be enough to make me switch!

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24fps and manual exposure would be a dagger to hopes of Nikon gaining on the market. Nikon will most likely have this feature on D800 (future model) so why not beat them to it.

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Canon, there’s no point in having video on this camera if it can’t do 24p 1/48th. No matter how well lit, It currently looks unnatural and unprofessional.

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Add my vote for 24P (and PAL 25 while they’re at it). And full manual control over exposure would be nice too

Absolutely amazing work Vincent. You should be very proud.

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In Italy we neeed 24P.
Fantastic job Vincent, I’m looking forward to buying the new Canon 5D, and I own a Canon 400D with 5 lenses plus a Canon XM2.
In low light this camera is the best.
Please Vincent: shoot again another film!

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Canon, please add a 24p mode to this camera - make a killer even more deadly - ADD 24P.

Robert

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Please give us 24p…
and I also add to the request for 5 bracketed shots in AEB. I shoot HDR architecture interiors and it is a must for me.
Thanks for listening.

Vincent.. you da man!

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Canon Listen to 24p(23.967) at 1/48 shutter. Let the firmware be moded!

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Vincent - Until I saw your little feature I had no intention at all of buying the 5DII. Thank you!

Canon - Please add 24p and full manual control.

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I just wanted to drop a line about how important I think 24p 1/48th shutter is. The 5DMKII has the chance of being the first true convergence camera, providing amazing stills with amazing video. It is ALMOST there. Please, tweak the software just a bit =)

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I would like to request 24p and full manual controls for video capture on the 5D mark2.
Especially 1/48 shutter speed option.

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canon,
i know you know the importance of 24p already-i bought an HV20 as soon as it came out. please add 24p and 1/48 shutter to this and I’ll buy it as well.

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Pleaseeeeeeeeee….

- video : 24p, 25p
- stills : 9 frames +/-5EV for AEB

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my 20d needs a Big brother by now.., can’t wait to get my hands on the 5dmkII..

and canon please include 24p please..

cheers,
fred

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Please add 24P support!

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Please let us have 24 or 25p in Europe (or for all markets for that matter) and shutter 1/48, 1/50, 1/100 etc would be nice.

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24 fps
25 fps
1/48 shutter speed
Full manual control over arperture, shutter and ISO just like in still mode.

P L E A S E !

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Must have 24p. I will cry with happiness when you give me this gift. (and i promise to act surprised)

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Canon,
24/25 fps and the data stream savings pass onto 4:2:2 sampling (more chroma info!).
Add manual controls and I am in.

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I cannot get over the quantum leap that this camera achieves. I’m sitting here looking at this hulking mass of HVX200 + Redrock M2 + rails + monitor + weight. All I want is HD 24P and shallow depth of field. The Mark ll is such an elegant and lightweight solution. I want one!! But with 24P!

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Until it can shoot 24fps at 1/48th shutter, the video ability of this camera is just a toy. A gorgeous, incredible toy, but still unusable for the very application for which it holds the most promise.

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Dear Canon,

I am planning to buy this camera, but it really is conditional on its capability to record with 24p, as this is often mandatory in my school-projects.

Many thanks for your consideration,
M H

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I’ll wait for the 5D Mark III if they do not put 24p in this camera. I would hate for Canon marketing to use the 24p feature for the next 1Ds series as an incentive to “upgrade” - that would further fuel the RedOne message that companies are holding back technologies.

If Canon wants to tout the “Evolution” / Revolution or whatever - give the people what they have been asking for like Nikon has.

Also, don’t forget Firewire!

USB is so SLOW for tethered shooting! With the increased megapixels, it will be even slower.

Firewire should also enable direct video capture.

If Canon is going to look at this, I also wish the camera had the same still FPS as the 50D. Even if they had to enable a Nikon method to shoot faster stills at a lower resolution.

BTW, I’m a happy Canon 40D user. I can wait until Canon gets the features above into a 5D body.

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Thanks Vincent for those files.
Really stunning quality from this camera.
I’m really hoping we will have support for 24p directly from this camera. A 1/48th shutter speed option would be also very nice.
Exiting times will come.
I know canon will do something for us.

Regards,

Marc

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Count me in on someone who is wanting 24p! Without it, I’ll pass on the camera and wait for Scarlet. With it, I’ll easily shell out the cash for this camera in an instant!

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24p would be the single the feature that would cause me to sell my current Panasonic camcorder AND Pentax DLSR/Lenses and move entirely to Canon.

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“Two notes: YOU CAN lock down exposure. Just hit the (*) button. Yes - it’s a bit of a workaround - and I hope they will fix that for the final firmware…. but it’s not as critical as 24/25p.”

Locking down what the auto mode selected is one thing. But most people want to select shutter and aperture by hand to dial in e.g. 1/48 shutter @ f/2.8
If the camera’s auto mode instead selects 1/24 @ f/4, all motion will look completely different (and depth of field be slightly wider), so locking this setting down will be no good.

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I would like to see 24p if for no other reason than my iMac plays these clips at 24 fps now, which of course means frame drops for a video shot at 30fps

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Thanks again Vincent for your amazing job!!

You still haven’t answered my question earlier why the NY helicopter scene is reversed (cars going backwards) and im still curious.

Dear CANON please introduce 24 fps or you will severely limit the video feature here in Europe!!

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Selectable 24P would push me to order the camera NOW! Please do it Canon! I’m very impressed with what I’ve seen so far!

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Canon pls give us the 24p (Cinema) and 25p (Europe TV) option - your sales will blow away all the other new DSLR´s!

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Not just 24p…. 24p (23.97fps) in a Cineform codec or Cineform RAW…. AND.. and this is huge…manual shutter control. The user needs to be able to force the cam into 24fps at 48th/sec shutter, while locking the aperture (NO Auto Aperture!) I’ll buy one right now if that was the case!

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Canon, please give us 24p!

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I totally agree… 23.976 fps, with the ability to lock the shutter to 1/48th. That would make this camera sell like CRAZY.

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Obviously amazingly usable as is, but 24p would give it the cache needed to be king of the mountain. Many will stay with older equipment or even the new Nikon to get 24p.

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Here in Chile there’s a lot of animation studios. We all work with small budgets and work always in 24 fps. Even if we go to a TV.(In my country we use NTSC 29,97 to broadcast) this 6 frames help us to work less and its crucial in the film-like look.
We hope Canon use 24p with manual shutter because it will help a lot to archive professional or high levels results for the multimedia pros.

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What about 25p for those want to make their video in PAL format?
24p is important also!

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Canon this is your chance. RED has already canceled a product. Nikon video efforts are pathetic. You can create an entirely new category of video devices. Add 24p/25p and variable exposure (including 1/48) and you will DESTROY the competition. They won’t know what hit them and you will dominate the market for years. Just don’t drop the ball now and add 24p/25p and NOTHING will be the same, ever.

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24p would be brilliant, I would love to see an option to choose from all of the common frame rates though, if they are able to add 24p through firmware, why stop there?

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First of all, thanks Vincent for posting an amazing video. Very impressive. And kudos for encouraging Canon to add new features.

I’m usually more of a reader than a poster, but I thought I’d join in with the fun!

24p would be great, Canon! More options, the better. While you’re at it, maybe more resolution options too? like 720p for when you don’t need the full 1080P (or are running out of storage).

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24p please.

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I’ve been shooting HD on Sony and JVC and the clean, almost noiseless video is stunning on this hybrid. The chance to pack one camera for still and HD video is game-changing. One thing. Did anyone notice the dead pixel in the helicopter shot??? That is a major problem and I’m sure quality control won’t let that happed on production release.

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24p would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was kinda let down when i found out that it was only 30 actually.

24p would seal the deal for me!

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Canon,
You’ve got a game changing camera here. Please add 24p, and you’ll see indy films and likely even big-budget films shot with this camera. With the large sensor, low light capability, and shallow depth of field, the camera will do things your HDV lineup will never do. You’ll sell a ton of lenses, which will more than make up for any revenue shortfall. Never fear cannabalizing your own business! The PR you’ll get will alone be worth it!

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Canon: please add 24p and manual control. (the ability to lock shutter speed to 1/48 sec. )

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Canon,
“Reverie” is proof that you’ve built an amazing camera.

Adding 24p would make it revolutionary. How many opportunities do you get to be revolutionary?

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25FPS is very important. It is the only way PAL users can mix video from a Camcorder and a camera and get a good result.
30FPS og 24FPS video in a 25FPS PAL production produces studder, wrong speed og poor video quality.

One of the only cameras on the market with 25 FPS video is the Casio EX-Z1080 - but it only got 848×480 UHQ resolution.

If a manufacturer can make HD video at 30FPS then surely it would be easy to make an option for a slower FPS - it would probably also use less energy and make the battery last longer.

The problem is that most of the technicians who develop cameras sit in Asia and totally forget that a big part of the world need 25FPS. They seem to think that 30 FPS must be better - but only for half the world.

Any manufacturer who can make a camera with free settings for 24, 25 and 30 FPS video will be able to market this strongly in PAL countries and sell LOTS of cameras and win market shares from other manufactures.

So who will be first with a Camera with HD video in 24, 25 and 30FPS… Canon, Casio, Kodak, Panasonic… ?

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Canon,

Attention: Marketing Department;
24p = Market leader
30p = Also ran

I pre-ordered your EOS 5D MKII.

Please do not cripple the 5D! We need 24p.

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24 pppppplease!

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Canon,
Seriously, can you see what is going on here?
You have a whole new market of people begging to give you their (formerly RED-allocated) money… if you just make a few little changes.
Don’t let this opportunity to be ‘the company that changed everything’ slip away - because it will.
24p or 25p please. To quote a famous movie (so appropriate) “If you build it, they will come”.
ALEX

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@cmason - my imac plays them at 30fps in QuickTime player

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24p and manual exposure…please!!!

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Thank you Vincent (and Canon for allowing it) for posting those footages, they are just amazing. They played just nice on my iMac 24′ even though VLC won’t play them properly QT didn’t have any problem.
There’s a little “wobble” effect when the camera moves on the bathroom scene but this is nothing compared to the horrible D90 clips, and that’s much than I expected.
The more I see your footages and the more I think “THIS CAMERA IS MAID FOR ME!”. Photography is really my passion but I study cinema and we have to produce films and since I don’t have money to spend on a good video camera (I prefer to keep my money for my photo gear) I have to film with shitty cameras.
Now this camera is the perfect thing for me, I wanted to buy a 5D for some time no but didn’t want to buy something “old” so I waited and boy am I glad for that!!

Really the only thing missing from this camera is a more sophisticated video mode: 24p, manual ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed…

Then it will really be perfect.

Thnaks again Vincent for your great work, looking forward to your next project!

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Canon, 24p and variable framerate should not have been overlooked. We understand the idea to hold back items for the sake of the next sale, but the users deserve to be respected. Your products are fantastic, but are nothing without the users.

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Canon, I will buy this camera if you enable 24p and manual exposure controls.

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I want 24p/25p Canon!

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Canon you’re just like 5% from producing the prefect camera. just give us control over

Manual Shutter
Manual ISO
Manual Aperture
and of course 24P

in the film mode and it will just dominate the entire market overwhelming the RED, Sony, Panasonic camcorders and so on. With those upgrades canon will always be known as not only producing high end professional user friendly cameras BUT also budget friendly allowing lower and middle income consumers to further tap their skills and talents in photography and film making. Canon, you’re listening so do act ! THANK YOU.

Sincerely
Anthonyt

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24P please!

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24p please Canon!
Remarkable work Vincent. If I hadn’t already decided to buy the 5D Mk!! this film would have been the clincher!!

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Canon, listen! Please include 24p, 25p, full manual control (1/48, 1/50) and I buy at least two of it.

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Dear Canon,

24p and manual shutter control would indeed lead me to a store to buy/pre-order this camera.

Please release firmware!

Thanks.

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24p AND longer clip recording if possible. I will buy at least two of these cameras - would make a cheap and effective way of doing multi - camera setup with my different primes/zooms. Go Canon!

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Another vote for 24fps!

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This camera definitely needs 24p as an option. Real pros will use this camera, not the photographic “lay” people. Us pros understand lighting, settings and how to properly use manual controls. This camera looks like a winner, but adding the option for manual control on everything will make it a grand champion!

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One more request for 24/25p !
Please make it happen…

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Another vote for 24P from Spain

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24p, 1/48th shutter, and manual control would really make this camera unbeatable.

Did I mention I would buy it if it had 24p.

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First of all, I’m completely on board with Vincent that adding 24p to the 5DM2 feature set would be a very welcome thing!

Vincent, awesome job on producing the video and getting the word out on what looks like an amazing piece of gear. Watching what you’ve put together here only reinforces for me the fact that: Yes, great gear is important, but having a photographer’s vision, foresight and skill so that you can actually put this amazing tool to WORK is even MORE important. Big kudos to you, bro.

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!!!! 24p !!!!

PLEASE!!!

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I for one would also love to see 24p and 1/48th. I already have a pre-order for this incredible camera..

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DEAR CANON, listen us, please!!!

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Please add 24p, 25p and more manual parameters to change iso, shutter, … then i’ll buy this great cam!

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Dear Vincent ,

You are truly magnificent !!!!!

Dear Canon,
24p and please, please, please, get your UK price sorted out ($4,236 body only)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/canondslr/discuss/72157607404217966/

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IF i could afford one (BIG IF) i would buy one! adding 24p would be the cherry on top IMHO!

now if only i could find that briefcase of money i left lying around!

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Vincent,

You’re an inspiration! I’ve enjoyed following your career a tiny bit as you’ve reinvented yourself freelancing, using the web effectively, and now moving effortlessly into “film”.

Dave

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If Canon could do 25fps or 24fps and is not doing it, it can only be a great disappointment for all Europeans and other Regions of the World with PAL.
And I think this would be a big frustration for everyone who liked Canon products so far.

So Canon, whatever let’s you think it is not necessary to do 25p or 24p, it can’t be that important to disappoint so much of your Users.

I really hope you will not abandon me and the others trusting in you and will release a 25/24fps version.

Thank you

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24P is a MUST HAVE FEATURE!

24P tells us you are serious about working with filmmakers!

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To Canon…

24P/25P! 24P/25P! 24P/25P! 24P/25P! 24P/25P! 24P/25P!

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24p…please

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Canon

As others have stated, please add 24p ( 1/48 would also be great and manual control too )

I currently own a Nikon, glass and accessories but this addition would honestly be the final push for me to restart and move to Canon.

Please seriously consider this request from everyone here.

Vincent - wow this is just amazing.. just wanted to say great work!

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24p and 1/48th…please

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It’s quite simple really, I am a Nikon man all the way.

BUT if Canon adds 24P to this camera, I will buy it and a dozen lenses.

Isn’t that what a company wants? you to buy their product.

No 24P no sale, I will stick with my SOny Ex1 videocam and Nikon D700 duo.

Of course manual ability in Movie mode is a must also.
But without 24p there isn’t any need for the rest, cause it’s still a toy to me. 24P is the deal breaker especially if you already have 30P, aww comeon.

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24p and 1/48th, come on Canon peeps.
please

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24P please. Gotta have it.

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Canon,
Please add an option to set a custom framerate. Or just allow 24p, 25p and Manual shutter / ISO/ aperture.

Thank you

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Please Canon, give us frame rate options and full manual control!!!!!!

Otherwise I will wait for your competitors offerings.

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Do you want to see how amazing the full 1080p rushes look on a JVC-DLA HD1:

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And now the request:

1. 24p (with at least Shutter 1/48)

2. 25p PLEASE DON’T FORGET EUROPEAN PROFESSIONNALS !!!

3. MANUAL SHUTTER / APERTURE / ISO

4. For TIME-LAPSE: settings like 1 frame every 4 seconds, or every 10 seconds (this is so easy to implement).

5. 120p @ 1280×720 (or in 1920×1080 if you want but there I think the bitrate will be too high for the hardware of the 5D) very useful for slow motion.

THANK YOU CANON :) :) :) :)

Mathieu BAŸ - Studio fantasÿ dogma
MONTPELLIER, FRANCE

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Dear Canon,

Yes, 24P is absolutely essential, but don’t forget 60P. I don’t know whether its technically possible, but 1080 60P would send me over the moon. The possibility of shooting hyper-real video excites me as much as 24P. Take this opportunity to blast beyond high-definition standards! Red has stated they are planning high progressive frame rates for Scarlet (actually 120 fps). Beat them to the punch!

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i agree, 24p(23.976) is always needed for this stuff. it makes life much easier and makes the footage usable to a much larger degree for projects.

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24p and 25p would be great additions.

Actually a variable frame rate would be a fantastic improvement especially for timelapsers (changing the internal exposure steps from 1/12 ev would also be a big benefit to timelapsers, Canon compacts use 1/48 ev and so suffer from much less flicker link).

If it’s feasible, having a variable rate going up to 60fps would seem to make everyone happy and allow time stretching effects.

One final request for Canon, can you ship it yesterday please!

PS Great work Vincent. I think you’ve sold me on Tilt-Shift and pushed me over the edge on the 5D MkII.

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Offering just 30p is a “No-Go” for at least European buyers. Canon, please add 24p or even more selectable framerates to this stunning tool!

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24p and 1/48th to give you real film camera motion blur,
We as photographers are very meticulous a but these little things,
If it was a camera for the average joe then it would not be this important, but its not.

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Vincent you are magnificent!!!

Canon:24p and 1/48th…please

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@Mathieu BAŸ

That looks absolutely killer, man! Amazing. Would love to see that live.

Szabi

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Canon, please add 24p framerate (23.976 to be more precise) and 1/48th shutter to the 5D MKII.

60P for overcranking would be big step forward. You are so close to providing real competition to RED. Take the next step!

Do this, and I promise you will see broadcast commercials shot on this camera running on Spike TV. I’ll shoot them myself.

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Canon, PLEASE ADD 24P!!!!!!

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24P support would be enough for me to upgrade my workhorse EOS 10D (which I love and have no reason to give up!)

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24 please…

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I’m pretty surprised that it doesn’t already have 24p. The ability to control the shutter speed and FPS would also be a great advantage.

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Amazing! 24P would be fantastic! I would imagine 60P wouldn’t be that difficult in shorter bursts as well.

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fantastic, but would be that much better at 24p

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Manual Shutter, Manual Aperture AND 24P.. Pleaaasseee

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@Szabi

Thanks, in live The JVC DLA-HD1 takes the 1920×1080p @ 30fps and then shows it at 1920×1080p @ 120Hz.

With the .MOV container the PC plays it, and if I extract the RAW H.264 stream et put it in a .MP4 container (without any recompression) the Sony PlayStation 3 can also plays it, and of course without any lags.

With a true 24p source, the DLA-HD1 shows it @ 96 Hz.

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24p(23.97fps), 1/48, Full manual controls, Variable frame rates.

Thank You

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great quality, variable frame rate is a must!…. Overclocking and underclocking

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24p please oh please! I would kill for 60p too. Might be asking a bit much for an SLR, but still — it would kick ass.

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Canon pls. give us 24p and this camera is an Instant get!

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Looks beautiful. Canon, please don’t make the little silly mistakes you make with your video line and leave out something as important to an image capturer as 24 fps. This camera will never be a Japanese news camera, it will be for folks who are more interested in the film look and that requires 24 fps. Please include it and audio if you haven’t already giving it at least 2 channels of dat Quality audio recording. Can’t wait to try one out myself as I shoot a lot of video and a lot of stills on Canon still cameras.

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Very creative use of this new convergence of stills and video. Canon please consider 24fps, manual exposure control in video mode, and 1/48 sec. shutter speed.

Peter

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We want 24p and 1/48 shutter!

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Thanks as well for making the clips possible!

They are quite gorgeous, a 2000 percent improvement over the flaws of the d90.
The bitrate does NOT want to quit on making the dark areas lovely!

24P!

PLEASE CANON LISTEN TO YOUR BETA TESTERS!!

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Canon! Give us 25.00p on the 5D in the PAL area or NOBODY in Europe will ever buy the 5d for the purpose of video shooting. 30p toys for silly holiday vids you can buy MUCH cheaper. Give us also 24p for the sake of creative freedom and, last no least: Manual Shutter, Manual ISO, Manual Aperture.

IF YOU WANT TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE VIDEO INDUSTRY, DO SO!!!

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24 or 25P please!

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24P 24P 24P 24P PLEASE — FULL MANUAL CONTROL IN VIDEO MODE PLEASE

Alright Canon. I love your cameras. I own an XH-A1 and an HV20, and before those an XL-1s. I would love to make a film with your 5D mkII but it doesn’t do 24p. And there are no full manual controls for the video mode. What kind of crazy Kool Aid have you guys been drinking? Come on Canon. Give us what we want. 24p, full manual control in video mode. I understand that this is just the beginning of this type of video implementation, but let’s all be able to look back fondly on these current times in a few years with pride and good memories, not nightmares about 30p limitations.

Also, since you guys are listening, please make the next XL-H2 and XH-A2 with a full frame sensor and interchangeable lens mount. These video DSLR’s are really great, but come on, who really wants to shoot a feature with an SLR form factor? And don’t forget that RED is now redesigning the Scarlet to account for your 5D mkII and the Nikon D90. Thanks for listening and keep on innovating.

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PLEASE give us 24p / 25p / 30p Selection and manual controls!!! Then i will buy this dslr!!

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@ Vincent:thumbs up – amazing work! Had to upgrade my home system to view your clips though

@ canon: 24 fps are an absolute must. 25 and 1/48 shutter might convince me to buy a 5D MKII. 60 fps would be great to have. And what stands against hv frame rates at reduced resolution?

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Hi there great stuff !

I am in the UK, does anyone know if the PAL/UK release of the Mk11 going to have 25p (or as a second best - at least 24p).

This camera is aimed at professionals (£2300 / $4600 here in the UK !!) so I was very very surprised to see that video quality would have to be compromised/converted for use in a standard PAL playback !

Put simply, 24p or 25p and I buy this wonderful camera, 30p only and my money goes elsewhere.

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The convergence is here-long live the convergence…
CANON just do the right thing- can you imagine where this will be 24 months from now?

Bill Lee Photography
“Capture, Create & Preserve”
http://www.billeephoto.com

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really awesome shoot Vincent !!

Canon, please, for Europe, i wish i had 24 and 25p …

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I have an MFA in Film. My first year of grad school was spent cutting and splicing on a reel-to-reel Steembeck. Framerates and shutterspeeds were the grammar of my study.

With 24p and a “real” 1/48th shutter, filmmakers can draw upon a deep and vivid history of analog filmmaking while enjoying the fiscal and logistical advantages of digital cinema.

Do it, Canon. We will buy.

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Canon, please include a 24p option. As well as manual control of all aspects of exposure in video mode which includes ISO, aperture and shutter speed.

Thanks!

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Please Canon! This digital age 24p and iris / shutter are necessary!

Necessary for sales … and necessary for our creativity!

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@ Vincent Laforet

I hope someday I will be able to watch your entire film in its original resolution in my studio

Thanks to you Vincent, to have made start this revolution with so much brilliance.

I am very impatient to receive my new EOS 5D Mark II to film and edit with it, and of course to replace my actual 5D in still photography.

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Canon:
Please give us a firmware upgrade that enables:
24P & 1/48 shutter speed
25P & 1/50 shutter speed
more framerate options to choose from…
over/under cranking ability perhaps (but would be very happy with 24p/25p! :D)

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Canon, please add 25p and 24p. If you do that, this camera will change the world as we know it.

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Without 25 frames a second for us in PAL land the “movie mode” will be little more than a novelty add-on, I can’t shoot 30 for a client and then try and explain the jerky conversion as:

“oh yeah the camera we used shoots at the wrong frame rate”

if on the other hand the movie mode is for tourists, holiday stuff - then there are much much cheaper options without having to buy a very expensive professional camera.

Kate

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Great tool, but please Canon give us 24fps and manual exposure control. We really need it. Thanks Vincent.

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Wow ! No 24p/25p !!

D90 for me.

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Canon:
Please update the 5DmkII to 24P and 25P unless you want lot of suicide to happen in Europe!

And: More natural MOVs would be appreciated - too much Luminance-NoiseReduction (white jacket in heli scene) and too much compression artifacts (dark sky in brooklyn bridge shot).

Please do, as we all know you can and it will sell you tons of glass!!!

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We need more than 24p.
We need full manual controls as well.

thanks for share!!!

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Canon:
Please add 24p (25p) support!

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Canon,

Please support 24p video with the 5D Mk2.

/Bjorn

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Oh yeah . . .

Don’t forget without 25p you are basically saying to European Professionals:

“Sorry, you only get glitchy converted video”

If you are going to force PAL users to use the wrong frame rate, why not force the US/NTSC people to use 37.4 fps !! ;-P

Bizarre move if the lack of 25p for PAL users turns out to be true - and (at least) one more lost sale.

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I would definitely buy this camera if 24p were an option.

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Internet video is 30 frames a second, and you get less jumpiness or stuttering effect when you pan than you would get with 24 FPS. Of course, 24 fps would be nice, but unless you are transferring to film there isn’t much reason to use 24fps especially if you are going to internet.

Overseas it might be different, due to the difference in electrical current. And, transfers to film will look better because the video is better. Still, it’s time to stop thinking about film at all.

I noticed in two of the clips there was a white dot near the center of the images. What causes that? I didn’t see if on the last clip, but there was lots of white or light tones in the images so it might not be apparent. This dot seems to be sensor or lens related because it doesn’t seem to move from it’s screen position when the camera is moved, in the copter shot. Maybe even a stuck pixel. Quite a few artifacts in the out of focus bridge lights towards the left edge of the frame. What causes that?

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Canon, please include a 24 fps option in 5D mkII.

Great work Vincent!

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The short looks great Vincent! except for one minor issue… IT’S NOT 24P!!

Even with all the work you obviously put into it, but motion just doesn’t reach the production value of the rest of the project.

THIS IS A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME. I own a business, and when I heard about this camera, my initial idea was to buy up to FIVE of them for my crew members to use on our various shoots. We do more video than still photography, and the lack of 24P was what made me decide to wait until another manufacturer meets my requirements. I’ll bet it’s Nikon that will end up with my support… and money!

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No 5dmkii for me until Canon includes 24fps and manual exposure in video. It is embarrassing that Nikon has these features on their d90 and Canon does not on their “higher end” competition. Release the 24p firmware update Canon!

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I can’t see a technical reason against 24/25p as it would seem to be just a timing issue in the video part of the firmware and would be a reduction in data rate.

1/48th could possibly be a little more tricky as the current shutter options may be linked to the standard camera shutter speeds making a change more difficult. Having said that, the camera appears to use 1/12 ev stops internally in Av,Tv so 1/47.6th (9/12ths between 1/30 and 1/60) may not be that difficult.

But I’m not a firmware engineer.

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Please Canon, 24p 1/48th shutter is essential!

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Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I haven’t found the answer trying to read through the 500+ posts here.

What sort of sound input does the camera have? In other words, can you record professional onboard sound using XLRs or are they RCA / Mini connections only?

Also, it seems trying to shoot an extended hand held shot with this still camera body would be really awkward / tiresome since you can’t rest it on your shoulder. And what about zooming? Are there buttons readily accessible for this or do you have to do it manually with the lens?

For what it’s worth, as awesome as this footage looks, I would most likely wait until 24p is available before purchasing one. In fact, I’m hoping Canon is working on a dedicated video camera that uses the same image sensor as the 5D MKII. That is the camera I would much prefer to have.

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Please, - 24fps!

Can’t believe it, - but until this camera I would never have considered ditching Nikon. Awesome stuff guys.

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Oh also, why does every Nikon for the past year have a better auto-iso feature than Canon’s latest 5dmkii? Canon’s new auto-iso is a crippled joke, Pentax has a entire mode on their dial for iso-priority; and yet Canon doesn’t even include it as an option inside the manual mode. Very disappointing. Canon sensor technology has always been superior, but I cannot figure out why Canon purposefully cripples its cameras by not including 24p or a real iso-priority. Both are merely firmware updates. C’mon Canon.

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Canon, 24p please. Great work on this camera, if you can get 24p in a firmware upgrade after official release, that would be great.

Thanks,

Bry

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I have an I-Mac, one step behind what you buy now new. 4 gigs of ram and a Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 meg graphics card. Runs the high res HD video with no problem at all. I’m not selling Macs, but with free Sun Virtual Machine, it also runs other operating systems (Ubuntu, XP, Mandrake) in a windows with OSX running at the same time.

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29.97 fps
25.00 fps
23.976 fps / 24p

Manual Shutter
Manual ISO
Manual Aperture

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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24P is an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY for professional work…please make it an option.

fantastic work on the video…highly encouraging!
thanks!
-C

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Canon, I’m a Nikon shooter, but if this had 24P, 48 shutter and manual exp, bye bye Nikon and all that glass. I shoot allot of video and my Nikon SLR is great, but with both stills and video in one camera welcome Canon. Manual audio level a must too. You’ll likely sell allot of glass to filmmakers Canon who buy Nikon for 35mm adapters now. I have an HV20 and several Canon P&S cameras, but Nikon is my current SLR. Alan

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Thanks Vincent for the inspiring work and your comments have been enjoyable to read.

24P is probably the best “common” denominator across various markets - 1080p24 will play on anything - including blueray. it’s not simply for euro support, a more filmic look - it’s the one common supported HD framerate that can be played on anything.

even if the camera is locked down and I can fully comprehend the resistance to change firmware after code is made - production ready - if this could even be tweaked or changed via the EOS utility - as I would doubt this setting would need to be changed dynamically - it would serve a much broader audience.

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Dear Canon,
First make 25p, and 29.97p versions for us working video people.

I was literally about a week away from purchasing a new HDV camera when i saw Vincent’s video test! I will wait patiently for your production models to decide.

My wishes might include:
- uncompressed live HDMI out
- manual shutter, aperture
- XLR inputs (at least one)

Thanks
You make good products!

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I´ve seen the Reverie-raw clips on the canon-usa page now - and it´s a bit sad that the H264-encoder in the 5DmarkII is not even reaching the level of HDV-camcorders (that use MPEG2)!
Looking at my HV20-footage i´m missing the dreamy bokeh and the dynamic range of the 5DmarkII - but the video integrity is way better in dark&noisy areas and scenes.
I wonder why the MPEG2-codeq in my HV20 is capable of keeping the clear detail even in the smooth noisy video of low light scenes, while the 5D delivers block artefacts.
While the 5D footage looks cleaner than DigitalMovies like “MiamiVice” shot an HDcam by Sony i guess - i wouldn´t wanna see 5D-footage after postpro and recompression, when the integrity of the raw footage is so low.

Maybe if you´re using smart rendering you could live with the results - but it´s a bit sad that the cam delivers such a great filmlook and then compresses it so badly…

Check the sky in the brooklyn-bridge-scene oder the jaquet of the model in the heli-shot - Don´t you think that too much luminance-NR is applied and the fine details and fine noise are smeared and overcompressed?

Hope the quality of the Encoder can be enhanced by firmware - but i´m frightened it would not be possible, cause apart from that the quality is a dream come true!

Best Regards, Andreas

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You might be able to use a Hasselblad compendium lens shade with many Canon camera, to mimic the look of the Frankencamera, along with a nice 60″ Pioneer flat panel and the hdmi port for critical focusing.

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Canon camera lenses, that is. Any why not have this video feature with the other EOS cameras that offer live view? Even the smaller sensors will provide killer video, I would think. I’m thinking of the EOS D-50 here.

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50 D.

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How do photographers monetize video without deviating from our core business? (ie, I can’t see myself marketing myself as a cinematographer, but Ican see offering video to my still clients) I can see selling wedding “trailers” or using that as a bonus to my wedding clients. Any other ideas?

How is this 1020p video best displayed to clients? Does it need to be written to a Blu-Ray disk for all of it’s HD glory? Are there other ways to deliver HD content to consumers?

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Give us 24.000 and 25 fps as well as completely manual exposure. Thanks

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Even if it’s a Custom Function, it would be great to be able to limit the shutter speed to 1/2 the frame rate. In other words, it won’t go slower than 1/60th in 30p, or 1/48th in 24p. There’s already a limit built in (in 30p, it won’t go slower than 1/30th, obviously), so all they need to do is let us move that limit to 1/2 frame rate.

This is key to producing the “24p” look, and I consider it an important component of 24p. If Canon is going to go to the trouble of implementing 24p (which they really should), then they might as well do the extra work to give us a filmic shutter speed.

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24P
Deal breaker
oh, and
24P

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If the camera had 24P and 1/48 I would not hesitate to buy at least four of them for my production company. Until then, it remains a curiosity and nothing more.

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Yep, 24 or 25P definitely required here in Europe.
Many thanks

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HD is great and i love this cam and allready ordered and payed for one…but the HD market seems to be so schizophrenic.

in one hand there is hd tv sets, hd tv programs and hd cam everywhere

in the other hand no one can say that bluray is mainstream….for from that…

so what i buy a 10000$ equipment to put my vids on vimeo?????!!!! bummer

PLEASE SONY DO SOMETHING FOR THE BLURAY (lowering prices would be a good move)

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My vote goes to… 24P and 25P! Thank you.

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@Canon

24p PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS…….

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please 24p or i wont buy it.

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Canon, come on, it is just a piece of software (which is probably you already have ready).

Think about competition, today people have wider choice than 2-3 years ago and 24p feature will bring even more attention to 5D MrkII than it has today.

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Video mode is worthless without 24p 1/48th shutter. It’s nice to have a high quality lens and sensor to record home videos, but that just about all that I would every use it for (read: not a selling point). Give me 23.976psf 1/48th shutter, and I’d use it as a creative tool, and it would unquestionably be the clear dslr decision.

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Canon: Please add 24P and 25P to EOS 5D Mark II.

Regards from Indonesia

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I was wondering how things work with FCP. Does the HD video edit smoothly with all the effects available? Transitions, whatever?

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24p and 1/48th

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Looks very encouraging indeed !

Great footage Vince - will the UK version have 25 fps and not 30 fps ?

P.

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I would buy this camera right away if it had 24p, even though I was planning and saving up for the Scarlet.

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hangon:

That’s what I’m talking about. HD publishing for independent producers or for non-broadcast/non-pressed DVD market seems to me lacking. This camera is well before it’s time because there is no mainstream HD delivery format (witness Vincent’s troubles and worries about hosting the video because of it’s immense size. ) When there is a mainstream vehicle for HD video like youtube, this becomes an amazing tool. Right now, I’m worried that for many uses, I’ll be down sampling all my video. Any thoughts?

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I teach students that today’s technology advances enable them to film their stories without shelling out big buck. Nowadays Canon EOS 5D MKII offers a fantastic opportunity to whoever is interested in BOTH great digital photo and great 1080p. However, lack of 24 fps is completely bizarre (IMHO) since it faults the user without any technical reason. If this equipment can get 30 fps, then it makes sense to imagine that 24 fps is doable.

Canon, please add 24 fps to Canon EOS 5D MKII and you’ll see more people buying it. I myself have a Canon 5D and I will buy the new one if presented with 24 fps. Without it, the marginal benefits brought by the new investment are not good enough to justify it. I am sure there are many others thinking in a similar way.

By adding 24 fps you are offering a new incentive for prospective buyers

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We need that the Canon EOS 5D Mark II has 24, please. If you do that, you´ll shake the world.

Thank you.

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I’d buy this camera in a heartbeat if it had 24p and 1/48th shutter.

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24p for sure. However, I think manual exposure control is even more important. Vincent, I’m surprised to hear 24p is more important to you than manual exposure control. Sure you can trick it, but that isn’t a consistent repeatable, matchable way to shoot. Does that mean you would prefer a still camera that had a higher MPixl to one with manual exposure control?

I have no insider info, I’m not a tech scholar, but the bottom line is I can’t think of a single reason why Canon couldn’t or shouldn’t provide manual exposure control AND 24p unless they were intentionally crippling the camera to protect another camera devision within their company. Hopefully that is not what is happening.

24p AND manual exposure - a must to make the video recording more than just a bell and whistle… for me at least.

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Hi Vincent and friends,

I am a long-time follower of Stu’s blog and the owner of Local Hero Post in Los Angeles. We recently received 5 Red cams and a re very keen on following the debate over this amazing SLR.

I fully agree with Stu and Vincent, 24p and manualy control over iris and shutter speed are AN ABSOLUTE MUST.

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I pre-ordered one but I must say when I see the raw clips I am not thrilled with the very obvious compression artifacts. I don’t think any pro HD camera with a data rate of 50mbps or more would have that. My hope is that this was due to the ISO 1600+ shooting and that the added noise is making the encoder waste bits that could otherwise encode signal. I would like to see some raw clips at ISO 100. Also I would like a way to lock the shutter to 1/60th for the most natural motion. Personally I don’t care about 24P. Film projection is dead pretty soon.

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We need 24p as well as 25p in PAL contries. 180 degree shutter pretty please.

If you implement this on the cheaper liveview DSLRs you’ll sell them like there’s no tomorrow.

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I am from Turkey and the only way I will pay all the premium taxes for 5D II is it also records video in 24/25p. Hey, I will pay 60% more than US citizens just for the guarantee!

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Dear Canon,

The lack of 24p (and 25p for here in the UK) is the ONLY thing preventing me from immediately pre-ordering this otherwise amazing camera. Please give us a choice of framerates and as much manual control as possible during video capture. If you do this, you’ll single-handedly launch the DSLR Cinema revolution, and I for one will buy many Canon lenses, as I’m sure a great many of budding directors will!

Vincent, thanks so much for pushing the boundaries and dropping our jaws with the amazing footage, and then fostering such a passionate community with your extremely generous sharing of the movie and the source. You rock!

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Vincent, thanks for posting the technique for locking the exposure in movie mode. It’s very similar to what we Canon HV20/30 owners do to lock the shutter to 1/48th in 24p mode.

In those cameras, you can do a half-press and see your shutter speed. So as you do the point-it-at-a-light dance, you have some feedback to let you know you’ve hit your target.

Is there anything like this on the 5D MkII? Can you actually see what shutter speed you’ve locked in?

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Dear Canon,

of course Vincent Laforet has right. For me, pro from Poland, 24 frame is very important too. I’m that guy, who alredy mix creative media: audio with stills, video a lot of important, meaning photos. I was realy look forward Canon 5d Mark II with full hd capablity to work with the L’s. And i’m waiting to buy it. Of course, after the firmware up-date to 24 fps.

Love from Poland, Europe.

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24fps in a beautiful DSLR with a full 35mm sensor would be revolutionary. It would stand all the other companies on their ear, and show Canon to not just be a leader in Photography, but also Independent film. I know of at least 6 people including myself that would buy one instantly if it had a 24fps option.

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Vincent - A question - It appears that all of your clips are ISO 1600, and they look great. But as clean as ISO 1600 is, it still has more noise than ISO 400. The slight extra image noise at 1600 is probably taxing the compression scheme fairly heavily, the same way old movie grain bogs down standard DVD compression.

Did you shoot anything at a lower ISO, 400 or less, and if you did, was there an improvement in image detail due to less aggressive compression? Thanks!

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Hey Canon, 24p and 25p will :

- make us happy
- make you sell even more cameras (5D Mark II)
- start a revolution

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PLEASE PLEASE I WANT THIS CAMERA SO BAD….just add 24p and I will gladly pay for this and sell my nikon.

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Vincent,

We really just need these two,Frame Rate and Manual Control in movie mode.

Frame rate:

29.97 fps
25.00 fps
23.976 fps

Manual Control:

Manual Shutter
Manual ISO
Manual Aperture.

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คนไทยต้องการ 24p อยาดได้ภาพดูแล้วเหมือนถ่ายด้วยฟิลม

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First off, everyone seems to forget that Canon already sells professional HD video cameras, and other bodies besides the 5DmkII. It would be very foolish, business wise, for Canon to put every single feature that is in their top of the line HD cameras into the 5D.

Also, keep in mind that this is video v1.0, so of course it’s not going to have every option under the sun. Their next SLR w/video should have quite a few more features. And if the past is any indication, I’ve never heard of Canon releasing a firmware update that gave users MORE features, Canon’s firmware updates are always related to bug fixes and hardware compatibility. Not that they couldn’t do that, its just that they make MUCH more money selling you a newer body, than they do giving you a free firmware update.

Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if Canon came out with a 1Dmk4 that records 1080p video, and adds all of the frame rate options & shutter speed lock.

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I would buy one right away if it had 24fps and 1/48 shutter, not to mention manual exposure control.

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Canon, you’ve started a revolution, just add 24p and you will be way ahead of the curve.

I will buy this camera if that extra effort is made.

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Gotta have 24p!!!! That’s what will be keeping me in the Canon realm (and I do love playing there).

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Dear Canon. I would like to thank you in advance for taking our feedback seriously. You truly have created a revolutionary product, but I cannot justify the new body without having a 24 or 23.976 frame rate. I assure you that when this feature is announced, I will have a 5D Mk2.

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Even though I can’t afford it I will buy this camera if it has 24p. I love 24p. I need 24p. I want 24p. Please Canon put 24p into this Camera by way of a firmware upgrade or any other method that your genius dictates.

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24p, 1/48 shutter and manual controls would make the 5D mark II a truly revolutionnal product, not just hype. It would appeal to a wide audience, not just pro photographer, but indie filmaker as well (and wannabes, but that’s another story…)… let’s say it loud and clear! 24p! 24p! 24p!

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I’m sure many of you will disagree, but I can’t keep my mouth shut. Not trying to offend anyone. This is a prosumer still camera with a bonus video mode - first generation of its kind. Seems like many are expecting (or asking for) a full featured, professional video camera. It isn’t. As consumers, and/or professional users, we should always ask for more, but let’s be realistic. 24/25p shouldn’t be too difficult to include (I assume), but people need to be reminded that this isn’t a professional video camera. It’s cool to be able to shoot video with your DSLR, but for serious work you should get a real video camera. At least for now. In a couple of years - who knows? In the mean time, you should use the best tool available for the job at hand.

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It’s gotta be…………….24P!

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Canon: We want 24p, 1/48th shutter on the 5D in a future firmware update! PLEASE!

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Who is the 30p video aimed at ? Look at this from the PAL/Europe point of view:

Professional Photographer - will unlikely *need* video in his daily work flow.

Holiday maker/tourist - will unlikely not be willing to spend £2300 / $4600 (UK price) on a camera.

Videographer - will not be willing to compromise image quality with additional (and time consuming) retiming of all the footage they shoot.

Include 25p and make the video side a viable function and not a novelty add on.

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Agreed.

25p or 24p is a MUST!

Without it I wouldn’t/WILL NOT buy this toy.

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Canon,
I have the feeling that Nikon is on your tail and if you were to pull this out they would have trouble recovering. This product is unheard of so far and if you are able to push it that much further with the addition of 24p, other companies will be knocked back to the stone age. I look forward to owning one.

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Agreed.

25p or 24p is a MUST!

Without it I wouldn’t / WILL NOT buy this toy.

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24p/25p + 1/48th Shutter (for the film effect) D90 is 24p. It still doesn’t have that “film motion” Red ONE does because it has the 24p and the 1/48th shutter.

the 24p/25p + 1/48th is the minimal, if they wanna stretch it, go with the high FPS, 120fps! Or 300fps! Hell 600-1200FPS PLEASE!!!! I wanna see the super-smooth as butter slo-mo a la EX-F1!!!!

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Are there technical limitations to 30 FPS besides “I want the film look”? Do Blu-ray players even play 1080p at 30 FPS? I am testing that now.

So the real question is “Will we be able to smoothly play any of these 1080p videos at 30 FPS on anything other than a computer”?

If these can only be played on a computer then the video mode is useless for professional use. Not too many people have the band width necessary to distribute 40 Gb/sec.

Also 24 FPS will probably allow some medium speed computers to play the file. 30 FPS is a beast.

Canon it sounds like there are quite a few “technical” reasons why 30 FPS won’t work for your consumers. If there are technical reasons why you can’t do 24 FPS then this camera could be dead in the water. If not then you just created the money tree for everyone!

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Canon If you are reading this then please add 24P and 25P.

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Canon… We need 24p and 1/48th shutter. I will only consider buying the camera if those features are available.

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I just discovered your amazing video and read some posts,
a question came to me about the aperture,
is it possible to use old nikon lenses with an adapter ring so that we can use the aperture ring that doen’t exist on new canon ef lenses ?
would it afford to change the aperture during the shooting ?( if we previously lock the iso and speed )

I m actually using dof adapter and you can imagine how this canon 5D experience is exciting !

Thanks

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Does anyone else think that 600+ requests in about 17 hours is incredible? The interest in this camera is astounding!

Canon got what they asked for when they said this camera would revolutionize the industry!

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Maybe we should just ask “who can NOT use 24 FPS”? My guess is that you will hear crickets chirp if that is the question.

24 FPS will work for all stand alone players and all computers right? 30 FPS only works for computers. What FPS are European Blu-ray discs mastered at? Aren’t they 24 fps also? I thought that 25 FPS only applies to the PAL standard?

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For anyone interested, here is a response I got from Canon after e-mailing them about adding 24fps capability and explaining just what a revolutionary product they have on their hands and why:

Thank you for contacting Canon USA via the Canon Digital Learning Center. Our Professional Products Marketing Division is comprised of both camera and video personnel, and we have been working intimately as a team dealing with what is a convergence of the two markets — especially so in this new model. We are aware of the potential this camera will have on both the still and video markets, and the “buzz” it has created. We know there is no other video camera with this size sensor, and we are aware of the fact that videographers and filmmakers will now have the same use of interchangeable lenses and shallow depth of field that their still photographer colleagues have always had the benefit of in the past. I have forwarded your email to my video colleges. Hopefully your suggestion for 24 fps will make its way to our R&D department in Japan.

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No 24p = No Sale

I know you can do it Canon. A couple of line of codes and we’re good to go.

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24fps with 1/48th-second shutter speed results in a motion blur ratio that, complemented by persistence of vision, most closely resembles the way the human eye actually perceives reality. That is to say, it looks like we are looking at something real, and not a sequence of projected still images from frame rates like 30… SO CANON PLEASE ADD 24fps and 25fps for PAL…. And myself plus many many more will purchase this great camera. Many Thanks.

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24p and 1/48th is key.

I currently own a HV20 camcorder, which allows you to shoot 24p. Just three month ago bought another 40D and have a growing collection of L lenses

The only thing holding me back from upgrading to the 5DmII is the lack of 24p and 1/48 in the video.

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Without 25p we can’t shoot proper video for the television systems in Europe. Millions of people.

Please add 25p so that those millions can buy and benefit from this camera!

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Like Dan says:
No 24P = No Sale

I will have to wait for Red.

Let’s make it happen Canon!

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please canon, make it 24fps… it just looks so much more professional

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CANON - I know many film and television professionals following the development of this camera very very closely and with great interest…all I’ve spoken with are willing to pre-order if the addition of 24p is implemented on your production model. Granted, more extensive features and controls would be an incredible asset to an already revolutionary product, but 24p seems to be the main concern. CANON, you have a WINNER…make it UNBEATABLE!

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Merci, bravo ! superbe.
Jean Claude.

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I want 24p, 1/48 shutter too.
I realize there’s no way to avoid rolling shutter, but Canon could implement 24p.
I know they can.

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helloooo people! theres another world out there beyond that big blue wet thing… yes we want 24P but not without 25P… England, australia, half of frickin europe, 120 countries use pal and think 25P might be quite nice so Canon if you want the jump on whatever RED is going to come up with, adding these frame rates is a good start otherwise RED will eat your lunch when their DSMC comes out and it does everything your doing now…and then some… and 25P

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For those having performance issues on Windows, don’t bother with quicktime. It’s no good (at least on Windows).

You need to use something that uses hardware accelaration (there are videocards under $100 these days that have full h.264 HW decoding and will keep even mediocre CPUs at under 20% usage even for high bitrate complex h.264 files).

PowerDVD 7 or 8 will run it smooth as silk (if you have an h.264 gfx card). Only issue is that it doesn’t play the audio. Not sure if it is a powerdvd bug (it does play audio on other h.264 clips though, just none of the various ones from teh 5dmkii that I have tried) or a pre-production 5dmkii .nmov header bug or if the 5dmkii is using some special new header that only QT can currently understand for audio.

As for getting the movie-look, I wonder if the 180 vs. 360 degree shutter is not more of an issue than 24fps vs. 30fps….

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but 24fps is critical in itself for sure too

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Give me 48p, I can always remove every other frame in post if I absolutely needed.

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Yes fine, 24p. Audio levels would be nice too. Headphone jack would be AWESOME!

But, how about making sure you make enough so I don’t have to wait a year before I can get one!!!! Anyone want to buy an HVX and a Canon Rebel?

Thanks for this!!!!

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I also want to reiterate what Vincent stated above: Focus only on the 24p issue.

Creative people have already figured out a way around every other “limitation” this camera may have, provided there is indeed a live HDMI output during recording. Frame rate, though, has no successful workaround. There is no way to fake 24fps successfully. Converting 30fps to 24fps is a mess and simply doesn’t work. As long as your ISO and shutter speed can be locked down, which Vincent has confirmed can be done, all we need is 24fps. Someone WILL put a PL mount on this thing very soon and we then can put some real film lenses on it! I am, and many others are already designing our tricked-out movie cameras based around a tiny SLR body! Who would have ever thought that CANON would come out with a product that is as revolutionary as the Red One? Oh wait… ALMOST revolutionary. Just add 24p and let the revolution begin! Oh, and make millions of dollars in the process.

Canon, the people in this message board alone are just moments away from throwing over a million dollars at you if you make just one small software tweak.

Right now there is a software engineer somewhere in Japan who is about to change filmmaking as we know it…

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Canon - 24p would not only ensure that I buy this camera, it would also push me to buy several more to enhance my company’s existing HD camcorder capability.

What would even be more important, you would be generating unprecedented good press and PR — a huge camera company that actually listened to feedback based on a prototype camera, and answered by implementing the suggestions in the final production model. You couldn’t buy this kind of PR and future consumer loyalty.

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One more request for PAL 25p.
I’m a professional videographer, who also enjoys a bit of still photography.

I have bought a bunch of Nikon lenses and the new Nikon D90 just so I can make video with good DoF control without resorting to a clunky 35mm DoF adapter system. The rolling shutter on the D90 is disappointing… but it does shoot 24p.

If the Canon 5Dmk2 could shoot in 25/24p, I’d jump ship in a heartbeat.
Europe needs a 25p solution - seems ill-thought to go for only 30p.

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I currently use Sony HD camcorder, but would like to try out the MkII for low light filming here in Europe (Belgium, Norway, Spain). But we have PAL TV systems with 25fps, so I would need this for compatibility as well as for mixing clips with other 25fps footage. So I would really need support for 25fps.

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Manual controls for shutter, ISO and aperture ARE a must!

Also 24p would be nice!

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24p would be very nice..

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Dear Canon!

Thanks for lending Vincent the camera! Lots of good things have happened. =)

Request: 24p/25p

A note on the 4GB limit. This is a limit set by the file system (Fat32) the camera use. So, this ain’t going to change for many years.

Decs out.
http://www.stevenilsen.no

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Vincent, I’m a little late with this response, but thanks for clarifying the importance of 24p about 500 comments ago! Glad to see this post blowing up, Canon is definitely watching.

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24p please! That would make the video mode that much better!

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I currently own an XHA1 and a 20D if the 5D mII can deliver 24p at 1/48 shutter spead I would buy it in a heartbeat.

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I support request to Canon to add true 24p (or 23.976 whatever is easier to implement), and 25p.

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I think I can have a few suggestions, forgive me if I repeated someone above.

1. Canon knows that there is no threat that camcorders and Canon’s professional cameras could be replaced instantaneously by EOS 5D MII. Professionals will certainly continue to use pro devices specifically designed to make movies. Amateur film makers won’t replace light-weighted and fancy camcorders by heavy, pricy, difficult to operate and awkward equipment. And this 4GB limit – how strange is that nowadays that there are 100 GB CF cards? Only some freaks like ours (DSLR freaks?) can actually be interested in making movies with DSLR. I know that the DSLR market is growing, but no one will film their family or weddings or a play with a set of lenses and a heavy camera.

2. Nor Canon, nor Nikon, nor any other company is interested in making us feel good. They want to make money. It’s like natural selection – if they don’t get profit from something it’s not worth an effort. And if by any chance they can profit from not putting extra bonus in a camera – they will do so. It is probably a matter of time the competition regarding film quality begin, but as for now Nikon or any other Canon DSLR cannot compete with the film qualiy of 5D MII. It wouldn’t make sense to put extra features right now. However, it all depends on the market. If all of us buys 5D MII right now (I mean right now) – it doesn’t make any sense for Canon to improve anything. But if we wait and see what happens (I’m sure prices will also drop by then) it may be a good argument to change the firmware. I think that by being too enthusiastic we place ourselves in a position of asking Canon a favour. They must be really happy there to see a begging crowd. That’s more on the fun side…

3. It seems that this “evolution” as they speak of EOS 5D is going to be a long one. They gave too many pixels, with 12 MP sensor imagine the quality and sensitivity it could be… And dynamic range. No, we got 21 MP and still quite some noise. AF – I hope it works no worse than in 40D.

4. For making a movie the 24p is a must, unless we all end up making short HD youtube self-portraits of singing heads. I wanted to buy a camcorder this year to make a video with my friends. It was supposed to be a story about a famous lesbian harpsichord genius (I don’t know why I put the word lesbian first…). I still didn’t buy anything just because nothing really suited me. All these camcorders have terrible noise and way to large depth of field. EOS 5D could be the solution as I also need an upgrade of a DSLR now. But how am I supposed to make a motion picture without the necessary frame rate?

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Please Canon, 24fps/25fps & manual control would be perfect!

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I’ll follow the advice, and I’ll stick to only one request (24/25p). In my case is simple, if a new update includes this feature (ok, I can’t help it… even when it can be tricked, manual shutter speed control would be very convinient :)), I’ll buy the camera with my eyes closed. If it doesn’t, I won’t (yet).

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PAL is not only in Europe standard, but also in India, China and so many other countrys.

So please don’t forget us. We also want to participate. But for that, we need you to give us 25fps or 24fps.

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Canon, please add 24p/25p in a future firmware update.

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This camera is so close to being a perfect replacement for the ultra-high end digital cinema cams… I’ve been a Canon customer for 2 decades now (Going back to my EOS 10s) and I would really appreciate the addition of 24p, manual shutter control, and higher frame rates for slo-mo movies like 100fps, even if the image size has to be reduced. Casio did this all, and did it pretty well in the EX-F1, except for the image quality–and Canon already has that in spades. Thanks for listening!

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as soon as I saw this camera specs I started to sell my Nikon D300 and the 7 lenses I have as well as all flashes I own (SB800 and SB600) but now that I find out that there is no 24P i’m regretting it and might wait on this purchase. Havent sold any of my lenses yet so i’ll wait and see what happens now with this 24P issue.

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Vincent, nice work. I’ve showed this short to co-workers and they were stunned. Excellent lighting and use of the Canon lenses. 24p is the only thing that is keeping me personally from purchasing the 5D mark II. It would fill 2 areas for me- as a photographer in need of a new DSLR (full frame yes!) and as a cinematographer who would love to be able to use the great Canon glass he already owns. Do it Canon and keep doing it Vincent! Cheers.

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Vincent said: “For those asking for the ability to manually set exposure - I understand why. But you’re not really thinking very creatively. Set the camera to aperture priority… aperture is now locked down…” What exactly does this mean? From other comments I’m reading that a specific aperture cannot be set.

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Just a quick note to add my voice to the chorus asking for a 24P. 1/48 shutter “upgrade.” If this camera had that, I’d buy it so fast my old Nikons wouldn’t know what hit them!

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NATURAL SELECTION IS NOW UPON TO US. UPON TO OPEN DEVELOPMENT AND NOT IN HOUSE EMPLOYEES. Darwinism can at last flourish on the open source of the net instead of the paid dictatorship of the Creed. Too bad if I would get paid for my own ideas without internet - sad guys in Japan maybe now realize it. Maybe. How hard is to realize that digital video and photography is related to the computers and that the computers are related to each other nowadays?!! What the fu(k are are we talking about product development in-house when every fu(king photographer is sharing he’s/she’s work on the net. Or wait, maybe digital photography isn’t related to the computers on the net at all?

Sorry, it’s just the case of an ever turning advertisement in Vegas that’s takes as much of energy as it could save at least one child per day in Africa, the greed of the dictators drives me nuts.

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24p is a make or break feature for me. The more film-like cadence is crucial not only for narrative projects but for the look I want for documentary work as well.

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25P for Australian PAL Please!!

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please add 24p. It is fundamental to my work and I’d love to be able to use this camera.

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just do it! 24P please. I would move to canon asap!
Cheers.

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24P please, Common, the Nikon D90 is much cheaper and is doing 24P ! The only reason why I will buy a 5DMKII is for the video capability, but only if 24P is available. If 24P is not available, I won’t by the 5DMKII, I will keep my old 5D and will buy a SONY HDCAM instead !

Thanks

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24p is a must!! Add it and you can find my whole Nikon glass on ebay.

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Thank you Canon

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24p, and you’ll have the holy grail. Its so close, Canon… So close… Go for it!

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Canon: Add 24p and you’ve pretty much taken over the world. Please?

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Better autofocus please!
http://www.kareldonk.com/karel/2008/09/19/canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-not-all-it-could-have-been

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very nice but it looks like video. I wish they would add 24p and a RAW sensor output

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24please…

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One more voice to the chorus. I bought the HV20 specifically because it would do 24p. I’ve considered grafting one of those aftermarket lens kits to it so I can use real lenses, but if the 5D MkII has the same ability to do 24p and I can use real lenses on it for essentially the same price, I would *love* to grab one of these sweet babies.

24p on the 5D MkII, Canon. It’s the right thing to do, and the tasty way to do it.

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Thank you Vincent. Your comment on “You need to request only ONE thing” is truly helpful and shows the great confidence that a professional person should learn from.

Your “superman” is cute. I believe he is one of the most wonderful parts of your life.

Cheers~

KChang

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Just reading though all posts, as an I.T. computer geek and photographer, Mr. Laforet’s line “I don’t know, I don’t have a manual” was darn funny. You mean in that 72 you had that thing, you didn’t RTFM?

I live in the Chicagoland area, therefore I can vote more than once:

Canon, 24p please.

MAHALO!

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25p please! And allow the audio in to be mic/line switchable with manual level control! Then this camera would rule for short film production.

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Besides from 24p. Full manual controls are WAY important before anything else i think!!! So full manual controls for shutter, iso and Aperture.

Get it together CANON! Sooner or later its going to happen! Stop stalling or another competitor like nikon or red will take advantage of the markets before u guys. The future for filmmaking is jst around the corner! Jst let it happen!

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Thanks Vincent.
For Canon:
I currently use a DVX100a and a Canon 20D. If I could use my Canon lenses on a DSLR with 24p and the manual control of my DVX, I would buy in immediately.

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If Canon adds 24P to this camera it would make an extremely viable “B” unit camera to HD video production.

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what i’ve seen between the 5d and nikon d90, i’m torn. i like the canon’s look but HATE the 30fps. yes, there are worarounds, but they are time-consuming - and unnecessary with the d90. PLEASE add 24p as an option for the production models. please please please Canon. 24p is what sets “film” apart from “video” and what makes those who clamor for DOF flock to the DSLR’s in the first place.

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Please Canon,

23.976 fps 1/48th shutter speed;
Manual controls in video mode (shutter / aperture / ISO);
Manual gain control on audio input. (Super bonus points if you have independant gain for L/R channels).

Add this to the 5D Mark II and my credit card is on the table.

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Releasing this camera without 24P and manual controls in video mode would be a travesty. I don’t know if I can resist even without these features, but with them, I am all in.

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Canon, PLEASE as 24p!!!

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This camera is phenomenal, but to be revolutionary, it must shoot 24p.

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Has anyone managed to convert the sample MOV files into something a PS3 can play? I was able to export to MP4 (without sound) using QT Player in passthrough mode, but the PS3 didn’t like it, even though it can play other 1080p MP4 files just fine. Maybe 30p instead of 29.97p is a problem? (QT Player choked trying to export the 44.1/16 uncompressed sound, so I didn’t include that.)

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We need 24p and 1/48 shutter, without it there’s simply no way for filmmakers to take advantage of this camera. Manual controls are a must as well because trying to “trick” the camera is the most insulting thing a camera manufacturer can force upon its customers. Just add full manual controls, all it will end up doing is sell even more cameras.

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24P!!!!!
1/48 shutter!!!!!
Manual Exposure!!!!!

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24p and manual control would be great!

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I own a Canon and want 24p!

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24p please please please

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I’d eat my nikon for 24p

As for audio that no problem just try a high end beachtek adaptor with the headphone jack and audio meters. plug in an mhk-416 and you’ve got cinema quality audio.

be nice if canon could chime in and tell us what their thinking.

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Canon,

You cant change the perception of cinema shot and projected at 24fps for centuries. So, please add 24fps to your DSLR products to EOS 5D Mark II and future products without any hesitation. Dont miss the bus to other manufacturers because of this.

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Hi Canon. I shoot Canon and I would love to buy the 5D Mk II, but I won’t do it until I know I can shoot 24p. 1/48th of a second exposure time would also be fantastic, but as long as I can shoot with 1/50th at 24fps, I’d be happy.

Please don’t risk losing a customer. I’m holding off on purchasing more glass until I find out what’s going to happen here, too.

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24P PLEASE!!!

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Canon if you do 24p
I will give you a blank check and I will pay any amount that you write on that check.
manual shutter and 1/48th I’ll give you my wife.

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Please, please please 24p?

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I suggest a $10-20 fee for an optional upgrade firmware to give 24p/25p and shutter control.

Given the demand, should compensate for any development costs, yet anyone who doesn’t want it need only not download. Everyone is happy that way.

cheers,
Chris

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Dear Canon,

I would love to see 24p (or even better, 23.976) in your new MkII. From what I can tell, your HD video looks fantastic, but without 24p, it’s somewhat useless for me and those I work with. With the addition of 24p, you’d have a new Canon customer for sure.

Thanks & Best Wishes!

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24p(1/48s)+25p(1/50s) and manual control would sell canon tons of glass!

@Vincent: Does the cam feature some sort of “Fokus Assist” in LiveView?
The ability to zoom in for manual focus is a must!

Regards, Andreas

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24P on the EOS 5D MKII would be the coolest! And REVERIE is stunning! Well done!

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come on Canon. YOU know that evverrryyyyy photographer and videographer wants 24p. Give the people what they want and you get business, don’t and you lose their business.

Thanks.

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I live in the UK and so would need a 25fps option for going to DVD and would like the 24p option too. 30 fps is not much use for me at all.

Add those frame rates and I’ll be buying several of them for filming live events. The size of them will be great for unobtrusive filming at weddings etc.

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I really hate to be a pixel peeper, but why so much noise/banding in the night shot? It’s very distracting during playback and worse if video is paused. It’s noticeable in the helicopter scene too (shadow area in upper left). Full resolution still shots at ISO 1600 look far better than this.

Speaking of resolution, isn’t 960×540 half the resolution of 1080p? I keep seeing it mentioned as a quarter of the original resolution. Maybe in terms of total pixels, but not resolution. I’m confused as to which is more important between the two when determining resolution, X by Y or the total number of pixels.

Those having stutter issues with Quicktime on Windows might want to try using the CoreAVC codec instead since it is better designed and far more efficient. I had the same problem happen to me even though I have a decent PC.

Anyways, loved all of the videos that have been posted so far. Very revealing. Thanks for the effort! Oh, and I too hope 24p can be added via firmware. I’m so looking forward to owning this camera!

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Outstanding video, Vincent and colleagues.

I too feel that 24p is a no-brainer for all the usual reasons, but especially because it will bring out the amateur videofilmographer in photographers who just wouldn’t touch an HV30+35mm adapter for the fiddliness and burden of carrying extra equipment, but who wouldn’t shoot video otherwise, because nothing else is good enough (creative aesthetics matter… seriously). I’m one of them. And yes, it will make me buy more lenses. ^_^

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Canon, please enable 24p and 25p (for Europe and Australian users). Full manual controls will be great and the camera will sell 10 times more than it is now.

Thanks for that,

Corne

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By the way, as you would know Nikon has their D90 as 24p… I think if you, Canon, dont give the users 24p/25p many would go over to Nikon. I am talking about Indie film makers here. By the looks of it the 5d mark ii is an excellent stills camera

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Canon, please consider 24P video for the Canon 5D MkII. While 30P is the frame-rate for NTSC “live” television, absolutely every standard commercial, music video, “non-live” television show (i.e., sit-coms and prime-time dramas), and of course film (whether on DVD or film itself) is shot in 24P. Converting from 30P to 24P is pretty much impossible with professional results, and in order to use this camera for practical non-”live broadcast” shooting, we will need 24P.

Please consider adding 24P support to create not only a nice video production tool, but something that professionals can use in a production environment on real-world work.

The images speak for themselves in making this camera set the mark for the next generation of digital video, but not having 24P keeps professionals like myself from using this camera and exploring other options.

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Adding HD video capability to a camera that can take advantage of Canon glass but not including 24p is like going 70% of the way. Please, add it.

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24p + 25p as soon as possible! Please!

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Hi Guys,

Ok here goes, CANON … 24P 24P 24P … 180’shutter 180’shutter 180’shutter

Please Please Please.

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I’d like to throw my name on the list to request 24fps (23.976) @ 1/48th of a second shutter speed. I’d love to see the highest quality of footage coming from a high quality stills camera.

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24/25p please - this would stop a lot of camera swapping with my videographer neighbor

-/\/

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Please 24P!!!!!!!!!

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Canon, PLEASE — 24p

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24p please canon!

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About why 24p might not work:

I’m not an expert at video encoding or the Canon hardware, but it may be that the reason why Canon didn’t put in a 24p mode is because they don’t have the hardware capability to output smooth 24p playback from the camera. I’m assuming you can play back the video on the camera LCD, and that the LCD probably runs at a refresh rate of 15 or 30 frames per second. I’m also assuming that the HDMI output supports 1080i/60 for playback. All these modes can display the 1080p/30 recorded content smoothly by either straight output or dropping every other frame. Outputting 24p however requires doing a 2:3 pulldown technique to assure smooth playback over a 15/30/60 Hz display:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine#2:3_pulldown

If the DIGIC IV processor or HDMI encoder chip weren’t designed to do this from the start, they may not be able to add it in through a firmware update. This would mean that while you could technically record 24p with the camera, you couldn’t support a smooth output option from the camera itself. This would mean you would have to have a computer on-site (that could handle the 1080p/24 video) to preview every single shot.

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Hi Vincent,
my name’s Guy, and I’m a young surf, wildlife and landscape photo/video enthusiast from Australia. I just wanted to say how much your images and film work capturing your local cityscape have inspired me to finally move beyond the frustrations and limitations of my point and shoot and DV camera combination.

It’s a big move for a young man like myself to invest in lenses and waterproof housings for a pursuit that can best be described as a hobby, yet I now feel ready to explore the unknown and reach my full potential as a landscape and surf photographer/videographer. I’ve been waiting for the right moment to invest in top quality equipment, and the 5D Mark II looks like the way to go, as it’s so versatile for both stills and video.

Your night footage in Reverie is superb! I’m really looking forward to filming some amazing footage in the ocean in the hours around sunrise and sunset, as the capabilities of this camera in low light suggest the potential for unique clarity during these most special moments in nature.

Obviously, being Aussie and thus having the PAL system, I’d be keen to see 25p frame rates for video, but one post above suggests this is possible during post production anyway.

I’m wondering Vincent, if you or anyone out there can share where they think the film industry is going into the future, with the introduction of new technology such as Blue Ray discs and HD TV units into people’s homes? Will people’s boxes at home eventually play video recorded at any frame rate?

I guess my real question is…
If I were to release a cinematic HD surf film in about 5 years time, for viewing by people in their homes in Australia, Europe, the U.S. and around the world, would I need to format the Blue Ray DVD or whatever to playback in different frame rates for the different regions? Or could I keep it simple and just use one frame rate? And if I could use just one, would it be best for me to capture 24fps? Remember surf footage is pretty high action!

It may seem like a stupid question, I don’t know… but is there anyone with light to shed on the matter?

I’ll keep my eye on this thread, and would appreciate if anyone wishes to share their views. Cameras like the 5D Mark II, and whatever Canon and Nikon bring out next are going to define the future of low budget independent film making for years to come, so it’s really exciting to imagine the possibilities, and inspiring to see what Vincent has put together in a couple of days! I’m also really looking forward to seeing your next film project Vincent.

Peace… Guy.

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I want 24P!

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The ONLY thing preventing me from buying this camera is no 24p. 30p is worthless.

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Even as an amateur filmmaker, I know we really need 24p (and 25p, and 29.97, etc.) to make the video feature really useful.

I hope that Canon did not bake the 30fps into the hardware and can simply update their firmware to offer the necessary range of frame rates.

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Also from Germany 100 points for 24p! Supporting 30p really prevents me from buying this cam.

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i’m here as well, to request 24p frame rate and 1/48 shutter from Canon.

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24p is a must! shouldn’t be that hard to implement.

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Canon must make this 24FPS and 1/48th shutter. Better yet offer 25FPS also and it’ll soon be used on major TV shows.

Dale McCready
DOP BBC’s “Merlin” (UK)

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As I am photographer as well as videographer, in Spain, I can’t afford two hig end cameras, one for each purpose.

If canon made a firmware upgrade for this camera, adding 24p and 1/48 I would definitely buy their cam! There would be no reason for not doing it

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24p, 1/48 Shutter, manual control, please do it, i know you can!

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24p yes! 25p with 1/50 shutter for us PAL people too, please! I’m about to upgrade from my 350D, and waiting curiously how Canon will respond to this…

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the 5D Mark II is much more expensive in Europe than in the USA.
Yet, it doesnt offer a video mode that is compatible in europe. well done.

Tipical Canon. They won’t also offer 24/25p. Canon never listens to the customers. Look, it’s the same poor AF, despite all 5D user’s claims for a pro AF.

On the other hand NIKON DO CARES ANd LISTENS. Nikon offers 24p already, and the D700 is a real pro camera.

Im looking forward to NIKON offering a new REAL DSLR (as their current models) with a useful 24/25p mode and manual control over ISO/exposure/shutter, and a quality codec. This will happen very soon.

Canon will never do that, dont waste your money, . They screw it with their semi-pro camcorders for so many years, that’s why they’re the last preferred ones in the industry. Canon will make the same mistake again. Wait for NIKON.

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24p please!

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okay. i don’t want to sound stupid so i’m telling you: I have little to no knowledge about video taping at all.

can someone please explain me why 24p is that essential?

thank you.

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From France:
(a) It should absolutely be possible to choose 30p,25p and 24p.

(b) It would be nice to be able to manually control the exposure parameters : exposure time (angle) and gain (iso).

We know you can do that, Canon folks! Keep up the good work. We would be happy with an announcement of a planned firmware update at the time of shipping.

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also,

Canon has make such HUGE claims about his 1080HD video, yet it’s crippled everywhere. No 25p for Pal folks, no 24p for indie folks, no manual control.

and now compare the photos vs video. The camera takes photos at 12-14 bit, when converting to vodeo, instead of rescaling those values, the camera appears to simply truncate them to 8bit!!!, try it and look at the broken histograms. that’s doing a really and cheap video encoding/compression.

I know this is nikpicking (on a DSLR), but then Canon, DONT make such huge 1080p claims. Dont fool us. Video as it is on the 5Dmk2 is only a marketing gimmick.

Please implement it properly or dont lie.

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I’m joining in on the call for 24p, 1/48th shutter from germany. A 25 fps Version for Europe would be handy, too. As soon as this option is reality I’ll dump my D80 and buy a 5Dmk2, including lenses.

Felix

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24 fps please…

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Dear CANON,

I will have to buy a HD camera that can shoot landscape in the night for my upcoming documentary feature. With your 5D Mark II’s low light performance, I will be able to exercise so much more creative freedom with less technical restrictions. Isn’t the technology all about making people explore the world more freely? Without 24P, it will be too much unnecessary trouble (for you guys are already capable of doing perfect 24P) in editing and publishing other than producing web video. Why waste a great technology on such a unsupported and unpopular 30P? CANON Please include this 24P feature. Don’t just stop at being evolutionary but start being revolutionary as you always have.

A documentary film maker from South Korea

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24P please.

I have the camera on pre-order and I am a Canon shooter.

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Canon,

We need 24fps. Without it, this camera won’t be very useful to those of us wanting to shoot documentaries and shorts.

Please, please, please add 24P!!!

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24p! 1/48 shutter!
Come on Canon, you have come this far!
I have the camera on pre-order and look forward to using it…

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YES 24p and 25p and all the possible shutterspeeds please!

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I took a look at the camera at the Photokina a couple of days ago. It is great and the movie function would consider me switch to Canon even though I would need to buy a lot of new good lenses for that. But only if 24p is available - this is important, as it would give me a great freedom to shoot films that actually could go big screen.

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Please 24p - I would buy a Canon (we are a multi generation Nikon shop) for this feature.

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24p and 1/48 please!!

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Canon,

This camera is so close to becoming a game-changer. To push it over the line, update it to 24p and 1/48 shutter. It will become a turning point in the history of cinema.

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i need 24p and 25p would be nice

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Just fired off this email to Canon:

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Dear Canon,

I previously called regarding what I think is a really important addition to your new camera that has so stunned all of us since the announcement. First, a little background, I’m a visual effects artist who owns the now dated XL-1S and Digital Rebel XT and the time to upgrade both my video and still equipment to a more professional line of products is very near. I watched as Nikon produced great light sensitivity on the D3 but when the first D90 videos hit I thought I was going to—painfully—make the switch. Then I saw the 5D MkII and I was floored.

As a VFX artist I’m one of the niches that high megapixels really matters to for shooting textures, reference and HDR environment maps and the XT isn’t cutting it and the D90 didn’t look very promising in that respect either. As a photographer I’m very excited about the light sensitivity and as a cinematographer I couldn’t believe that we could already have such strong video capability from a DSLR.

Then I saw Reverie, it instantly made me stop even thinking about Nikon or the RED Scarlet we’ve been promised. I showed it around work with other artists and one outstanding cinematographer. When I showed Reverie to our cinematographer out of context and asked him to guess what camera had shot that on and the camera he guessed was in the $18,000 range.

There was, however, one little thing, it still looks like video.. The 5D MkII takes a massive step toward achieving a filmic quality, it’s all about the glass, right? Well, not quite yet, you see, we were still watching 30 frames-per-second with it’s routs firmly planted in the broadcast standards we watch on our televisions, not the 24 frames-per-second progressive film we watch when we go to see something epic in the theaters. Your video guys have learned this lesson before, it’s why I never really looked into upgrading to the XL-H1 and I know I wasn’t the only one who based their decision based on those specs.

So here we are, looking at one of the most amazing DSLRs in years, maybe even more revolutionary then the RED camera itself. We can now put your best pro-lenses on a camera that shoots incredible stills and incredible video but we’re missing one of the last, most important components in taking the revolutionary step to a whole new class of cameras. Please Canon, add 24p (or 23.976) to the 5D MkII via a firmware update.

I’m not the only one hoping for this, you can find many others and a more eloquent plea here:

http://prolost.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-letter-to-canon.html

and here:

http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/26/original-raw-clips-from-reverie-now-available-for-download/#more-1249

–
Chris White
3D | VFX Artist
Twitter: @chrisWhite

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24p please, it can be done and the people/customers need it.
the customer is always right!

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25p please! for all of us living in europe

although 1 to 60 [or more] would be better even if the resolution was dropped to 720p rather than 1080p

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24p (23.976p) Firmware update. Make or break deal. (I buy or I don’t buy.) (Plus manual shutter control, of course.)

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I’ve tested this video on two MacBook Pro, a 15″ and a 17″ HD, with 4GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz.
The video is flicking every 5 seconds, on Quicktime Pro and Final Cut Pro 6.
I’ve created a Sequence in HDTV 30fps and imported the clips. The next step was to import the clips. FCP asked me to change the video and audio settings of the timeline with the settings of the MKII. The video is flicking every 5 seconds.
I can’t imagine what computer I should use.
I’ve seen the Xserve in the making of and I think that Vincent have used its to edit the footage with FCP. A last model of professional laptop from Apple is unable to do this.

Vincent please explain what hardware exactly have you used.

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I whish canon would say something!

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I already “voted” but here some information:
I was at photokina today and went over to the Canon 5D Mark II booth. I asked the canon guy about shutter and he said they have a 5 day old beta version and there are not sure about the shutter yet. Several things could change. I asked about 24p and referred to various people on the net who would highly consider this as an investment reason. I asked if it was in general possible to get a feature like this as a firmware update he said that this may be technical possible but there are certain reasons why there is only a 30p mode and one of them could be marketing. I asked what is the best way to give feedback to this matter and he said that next to the customer support/feedback the workers at the exhibitions also give feedback so my concerns would be forwarded.
That’s the most I could achieve there.
Oh he also said that you can easily convert 30p footage to 24p but I said this is unfortunately not what I and the other people want
Cheers
Blazej

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Watch
http://vimeo.com/1817329

http://vimeo.com/1815853

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I’ve been waiting for this camera since I shot my first film on a PRO35 adapter. I wanted the 35 depth of field. Now this is the camera of my dreams for making no budget films, but only 30 fps????
25P and I’ll order one directly!
25P!

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other link

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2008/09/21/547601.html

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I’m pasting this because this is what I want.
24p (23.976p) Firmware update. Make or break deal. (I buy or I don’t buy.)
(Plus manual shutter control, of course.)

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25p video would be THE reason to replace my 5D.

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24p is a make or break deal for me. I will buy if it includes 24p, if the don’t, it’s a broken deal.

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It’s simple. If you can add 24p and 23.98p support (plus 25p for PAL customers), then I WILL BUY A 5D Mk II! Also, my co-workers WILL buy your camera. My friends WILL buy your camera. Thousandes of independent filmmaker and students in film school WILL buy your camera. And you just won’t make money on the cameras. You’ll also sell lenses by the tens of thousands. And don’t forget to add support for a 1/48th shutter. In fact, the more manual control you can add, the more cameras you will sell. This is really your chance to bury Nikon in this market. They missed their opportunity by only have 720p and some really bad rolling shutter artifacts. But, they at least got the frame rate right (which is far more important than resolution). Please don’t mess this up!

Thanks for listening,
Paul

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Why do we believe that a few tens of thousands unsold 5D cams would make a difference to the folks behind it.
We don’t base our culture on humiliation on submissiveness of each other - they can’t be blamed.
This is a teasercam to moving picture folks.
They will come out with a cheaper to manufacture (without prism and mirror but with audio facility) but double to quadruple the price camcorder for sure - market economy.

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Canon, I won’t consider this camera until it supports 24p. Please listen.

Thank you Vincent for the wonderful video.

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Nice work Vincent!

I would seriously consider upgrading my 30D to 5DII if it supported 24/25P. I currently own a PAL Canon XH-A1 HDV camcorder with SGpro 35mm adapter, and shoot almost exclusively 25P, or 25F as Canon calls it

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I really hope for 25p or 24p.

@Blazej Floch
for what I know, it is totally not easy to convert 30fps to 24fps in an acceptable quality.
This can be proofed by searching the internet.

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24p please.

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I will buy 2 of these (possibly 3) if they do 24 or 25p and the ISO and ASA can be locked down for video.

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Please add 24fps and 25fps for PAL with 1/48th-second shutter speed. I will buy the camera IF you make this option for the 5D Mark II. Me and others want this.

Thank you for the video Vincent, it was more the amazing!

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I cannot stress enough the importance of 25 fps option for this camera. For us, living in PAL countries this is a must.

In countries in places where the power supply is running at 50Hz - shooting in low light conditions, on the streets, offices, public places where discharge lamps are used, like fluoros, sodium… - this camera with 30fps is unusable for video capture. I have made a little test with a Canon TX1 camera shooting a short video clip of fluorescent lights running at 50 Hz with the frame rate of 30fps. UGGGGLY:

http://ikontact.net/pix/50hz30fps.AVI

If Vincent were to shoot his splendid looking piece on the streets of Paris or Rome it might have the flicker you see in this test

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1)…to release any video equipment in europe it absolutely has to have 25p and canon know it. They have always released video equipment in europe with 25p. so will do with this camera. 24p is a different matter so yes keep asking.

2)while I would happily use this camera to make personal projects…I have to correct Vincent and others for comparing it to the high end cameras. A big issue is h264…just laughable in the context of commercial production. I noted it in an earlier post and have since only seen a few people also mention it but the compression is particluarly nasty on any dark areas of graduation. This lack of quality means you just can not use it in full production. So my main wishlist feature has to be a method of capturing the data from the sensor without the h264. Honestly people…as beautiful as the film initially looks, you need to look closer if you want to be video professionals!

If you are spending a shit load of money on a shoot for a commercial project on talent/crew/post etc you are not going to try and make a saving in camera equipment when it’s quality is just not good enough. Its a shame as it’s so close to being good enough, just that damn h264 which seperates it, is actually a massive thing so the gulf is huge. I am a vfx supervisor and I would not shoot with this camera unless I could get the footage as near to uncompressed as possible.

Its certainly a step in the right direction, i’ll give it that and for personal/indie projects its an awesome prospect, but please stop saying it’s going to change the game at the highend, cos its not!

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this camera is the best thing to come along! But everything in europe is gonna flickr, if 25p isn´t added, and a full manual control-mode for the video capture is also a must for every pro.

Look at it this way… with these to simple features enabled, i would not only to buy this camera immediately, but apart from that I would invest 10 grand in lenses AND buy the 5d mark III when it comes out, with sraw enabled for movie capture, AND the mark IV with 100 fps… etc thats probably around 20.000 dollars out of my tiny pocket over the years. Now, get out your pocket calculator and multiply that with the millions of people who are willing to spend their savings on photography, and you got yourself a nice little deal going.

lets go digital!

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Outside of the USA & Japan, 30fps isn’t much use. 24fps & 1/48th will be useful to indie filmmakers and feature productions but most users will want to shoot at 25FPS & 1/50th.

Of course, if you were keen you could add variable frame rate control from 1 fps to 120fps. That would be the icing o the cake.

But 25FPS is essential otherwise it’s a useless feature in the UK and other European countries.

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I guess, our chances are rising.

One of the visitors of Photokina 2008 Trade Show in Cologne reported in a well known German Canon forum today (http://www.dforum.net/), that Canon is now actually discussing a firmware upgrade to enable 25 fps mode. Furthermore, the Canon technician, who revealed this information, confirmed, that the 25 fps can be achieved by firmware change only, no hardware modifications are required.

So our spirits are high and rising. Lets keep up the pressure. Regards to everyone as well as to Vincent Laforet for his marvellus work.

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This was an amazing demo of what the camera is capable of. But 30fps still looks more like video than 24fps cinema. It seems absurd that canon would build this cinematic power tool and OVER crank it to to a point where it looks worse than it would have to. PLEASE canon, correct this error.

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24fps recording is make or break…

I’m very happy with my 30D and didn’t even have an urge to upgrade to a new body. But if the 5DmkII gets 24fps recording, I’m buying it.

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Please add 24p. I’d be pre-ordering tomorrow.

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24 & 25p,p,pl…please!!!
+ full manual control
PYL-United Nations video producer

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24p please. Ready to buy just waiting for it. More filmic, more useful.

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As noted in a post above, the compression codec is not a great feature of this camera. If I am correct in may assumption, the format is a HDV 4:2:0 variant (similar to DV PAL), where the chroma subsampling will not allow heavy colour corrections and will limit the camera’s use for chromakey work.

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24p PLEASE!

I just can’t justify buying one without it.

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we need 24/25p options.

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Not sure if it has been mentioned since I don’t have time to read all 700+ comments but definitely a 24p option is critical. 30p would only be useful for news or broadcast type work.

If 24p is an option via a firmware update then couldn’t there be a way to make frame rate options as well, it would be dealing with the same components correct? The RED Scarlet was set to have frame rate options.

Manual control is Second most important. Very much so - just like the JVC 1st generation HDV camera - horrible because it wasn’t manual exposure. The forcing into desired settings is not practical for a film set.

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Yes, please add 24p to the feature set!!

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Please Canon!!! 24P!!! You wont regret it!!! 24P!! 6 less makes a world of difference!

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24P Please!

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24p on this beauty and full manual control….and you hit ball out of the park
Thanks
Craig Glaspell

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24p at least!Please!

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Another request for 24P as well. I have the Nikon d90, which does 24p, but would buy the 5d Mark II immediately if they added the feature.

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I am going to buy this camera anyway for my wedding photography business in Australia. But I am a pretty keen video guy too so 24p (25p too) will be a great plus

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one of the videos work perfect on my iMac core 2 duo 2.4 with 4 giga ram, the MVI_0706.MOV the one with the model splashing water on his face 30 fps perfect.
The other two play at 24 and 25 fps and looks fliking. Maybe prototype camera have problems?

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It seems a lot of people have already mentioned this but I’d like to add to that list and request a 24p option, it would be incredibly beneficial to my business to have that available allowing a far wider degree of creative control, in it’s current incarnation it’s use for serious motion work is rather limited.

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24p Please!! …There’s just a look that you just can’t achieve with 30 fps. .. Love the Apple Profile page Vincent!

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24p / 25p, please!

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Dear Canon!

Gimme 25p and I will order body & EF 24-70/2.8L IMMEDIATELY!
WITHOUT HESITATING & WAITING FOR NIKON!

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25p please:)

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We need 24/25p but it could be pretty cool to have 48/50p because it is the future

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I want 24p/25p so discharge lighting doesn’t flicker in PAL countries with 50 Hz power.

I think we are stuck with 30p though.

I’m guessing the 5D Mk II ’s video is 30p because it is a simple recording of the live view with little processing. As I understand it, the live view runs at 30P.

24P would require much more processing.

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24p is vital for this camera. As a videographer I would purchase the 5D Mark II for independent film making and music videos. It would not effect my video camera purchase as I would need a video camera for longer shooting. This could be a win win situation for canon. The fact that you can shoot anywhere with the 5D MII with it being so unobtrusive is fantastic and all support gear like steadicams and tripods can be light and easily moved for one man bands like myself. I’m currently tempted to purchase anyway but would have to re-encode all footage. However with 24p it’s a done deal!

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Canon, 24P please!

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As our great forefather Patrick Henry once put it….

“Give me 24p… or give me death!!!”

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24p for the EOS 5D MkII, otherwise would be a total loss…

Please Canon, be smart on this one.

A.

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Canon has a great chance to change filmmaking (and generate many more sales from the video/film communities) by adding 24FPS support.

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Canon has a great chance to change filmmaking (and generate many more sales from the video/film communities) by adding 24FPS support.

24P

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add 24p and i’ll buy this little beauty as soon as it is available

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Not original, but i will buy one if it has 24 AND 25FPS! I’m in pal land, PLEASE CANON DON’T FORGET US!

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We on Digifex are about to buy something to shoot HD with. We are in Sweden, so we need 24p.

You guys know why!

Please Canon - do the right thing!

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Come on Canon, your not going to let Nikon show up like that, give us 24p and manual control!!!!!

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i’ll buy one with 24fps.

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I’d love to see 24p - without it there’s really no point.

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If you include 24fps or 25fps and manual exposure control, I’m saving up and buying!!

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Please,mr Canon, give us the 24p on the eos 5dmark2, I don’t want to change for a nikon !

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24fps support will open up a huge new revenue range for the camera and new potential owners/adopters. as well as creating even more incredible imagery. it is a MUST!!!

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24fps, and I buy.

(But I’m happy to switch to Nikon, if that function comes not in time)

It’s funny, I have waited now one year to buy the 5d mark2, I never thought about film capturing, as I do that with something else, more sophisticated. A 24 fps would enable shooting when these ‘happy- accident’ happen, when you have the real gear in the studio.

But now that it has that option, I would feel like a “tourist” to use it: 30 fps. No way!

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Il definately switch to canon if 24p is made available, this would be a no brainer! please canon

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Vincent, nice job with the video. There were several shots I noticed where the white balance didn’t match the light used on the actors (they were skewed warm), was this a choice on your part or limitation of the camera?

Oh and also: CANON 24P and 1/48sec shutter. Do that and I’ll switch from Nikon!

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dear baby jesus….please ask Canon to give us 24P and 1/48th shutter…..and baby jesus, if you don’t mind, please keep sharp objects away from Jim Jannard at Red (camera)…..and lastly baby jesus, please convince Vincent to never shoot a drop of sweat ever again….thank you.

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Okay, I’m gonna join in.

I need 24p and 1/48th shutter. That’s the missing link. Do that and this will be the near-ultimate digital filmmaking tool.

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I personally don’t think the Digic 4 chip is powerful enough for 24p at 1/48s. Faster shutter speeds takes less processing time, which is why they are able to do 30fps. Maybe we’ll see a compromise. 24fps at 1/60 or 1/100 shutter, which is not what people want, but its what Canon can give until Digic 5.

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24fps / 25fps please!
Michael McDonald - how do you know this? are you a microprocessor expert? Lets just see what Canon can do….

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I NEED 25 fps too!!! Please Canon!!!

And while you’re on it. Why not include 50 fps hdv size too? I know you CAN!

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I also requeset 24p/25p and 1/48 / 1/50

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Please, I will only buy this if it has 24P

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